Werd to the hairiest motha

 

Moi?

I never said I was pissed off. No one in this thread said they were pissed off.



Never said or suggested anything of the kind. Think yourself that important if you must.



Ahh, with how much you've been posting, you'd think I'd notice eh?

This all has nothing to do with the thread of course.

Enjoy the site.

 

ill admit, when i saw this thread closed, i got pretty upset. i just see no reason for the mods of RDT to hold anything against us at HT. its not like either site will be losing money or anything with the other existing. plus HT covers all hyundai's, not just RD's. along those lines elantraxd, elantraclub, elantraforums, crookedh, hyundaiforum, hyundaiperformance, hyundai-forums, seoulfulracing, hyundaiexchange, and so on would be considered a threat....


please being a mod dont set such an example. i still to this day love this forum, but it DOES have issues with the way its being modded. there are too many personal attacks, and mods putting people down. were here to support each other, and help one another. not to prove so and so knows more then the other, and instead of allways telling them to search, if you know the asnwer, just answer there question, it involves the same amount of work explaining there question, as it does telling them to search.



RDT could be a much better site with a very little work put in.

(off topic) exactly why did faith lose his mod powers anyway?

 

Conflict of interests. With him being a mod on Both sites, it is too easy for him to get upset with somebody on one site and take it out on them on the other. We also did not want too free a flow of information from our administration to yours. Trade secrets and the like.

 

What you need to do is ask 00tibby to tell you HONESTLY why he came up with yet another Hyundai based website. The keyword is honestly. As much as he states that he is not trying to compete with us I have always felt he does. He says he doesn't but whatever. As far as faith losing his mod powers Mad is right, but it really is not any of your business being as you are not a moderator over here. I have seen the mindless babble that Sportman posted on hyundaituners.com about this post and it appears to be a call to arms. Yes, I know there may be things that should be done differently but just because you take in all the people that were "hurt or wronged" by RD doesn't make you a community voice. Enough bumping of this topic, if people want to go there they can go. Otherwise they can find it through a search.



http://www.hyundaituners.com/dissappointme...lying-t229.html



"I am sad at how harsh redzman is. As the site admin, he has the job of trying to make the hyundai community better, not tear down the rest of the community. However, I believe there is only one answer to his arrogance. That is to simply prove him wrong.

I would like to see a massive surge in promotions. We will listen to any and all ideas. Anything you think would make the site better, we will seriously consider.

We are now looking to put together a small artwork team. If you would like to contibute to HyundaiTuners, and are good with photoshop, or designs, please PM me.

We are also looking for a few people to handle the promotions of the site exclussively. If you think you have any skills or ideas in this area, please PM me, also.

As for my side of things, I already have a few simple ideas on how to make the site better, and will work on implementing them this weekend. Goals include a faster, more hyundai, and even more unqiue hyundai forum, HyundaiTuners!

PS: I would like to note, that we are not saying that rdtiburon is not a good community. I , as in only me, am simply stating my sincere disappointment with the rdtiburon.com administrations and their unexplained, and harsh words."

 

It wasn't my idea. I was approached to just be the tech behind it. Four other guys approached me and asked me to do it. I accepted.

And java, i wasn't talking as a community voice, as you might think. I was stating my disappointment at how redz orginially handled this. This is proven in the quote of my post that you used.

Notice that " I, as in only me, ......" part?

And also, we aren't taking in people that are hurt or wronged. Why would we think that way? We are just offering a different community, different software, and different ways of doing things.

Also, I would like to state that we have no intentions of using your "trade secrets"... I don't want to be another rdtiburon.com. Like i said before, we are just offering another place for people to go.

 

This part here still has me scratching my head, oh and the title of your post "Disappointment and Rallying".



"However, I believe there is only one answer to his arrogance. That is to simply prove him wrong.

I would like to see a massive surge in promotions. We will listen to any and all ideas. Anything you think would make the site better, we will seriously consider.

We are now looking to put together a small artwork team. If you would like to contibute to HyundaiTuners, and are good with photoshop, or designs, please PM me.

We are also looking for a few people to handle the promotions of the site exclussively. If you think you have any skills or ideas in this area, please PM me, also.

As for my side of things, I already have a few simple ideas on how to make the site better, and will work on implementing them this weekend. Goals include a faster, more hyundai, and even more unqiue hyundai forum, HyundaiTuners!"

So to me it looked like you were using this "altercation" as a launching point to motivate the members into doing whatever to increase your sites membership.

 

You like like to know why i said that? I was responding to redzmans, "who cares" statement. That statement is how i believe we can prove redzman wrong. I didn't trash rdtiburon. I didn't say i wanted beat it in competition. I simply stated how we can prove the statement wrong.

THat make more sense to you?

EDIT: it seems you edited while i was posting...lol. It is an launching point. I want to prove redzman's statement wrong.

 

Yeah, I saw that part.

"PS: I would like to note, that we are not saying that rdtiburon is not a good community. I , as in only me, am simply stating my sincere disappointment with the rdtiburon.com administrations and their unexplained, and harsh words."



Anyways, good luck with the new site.

 

I don't think anyone here holds anything against anyone there. I'm a member of like 8 Hyundai forums, most of them failed, and don't really want to join or go through the hassle of another one. No offense to HT, but frankly, the "all hyundai forums" don't work anymore. They haven't since HA.com . Notice that HP has denegrated into this Accent only fest? HA.com came back as HA.org and there is almost no activity there. CrookedH is almost exclusively a refuge for anti NT folks, with a few exceptions of elantras and RD guys. The new HA.com went under and is now just an ad site. It's just fact, the seperate models have gotten big enough that folks want to get the info just about THEIR car, without sifting through stuff about the GK, Santa Fe, whatever. Doesn't matter how similar our cars are, most folks want just the same info.



Money would be the last of any worries. RDT makes practically nothing. We rarely ask for anything. Everything from our site exists on Supercow's personal servers. We have a perpetual licence for the software. The occasional, and I do mean OCCASIONAL money that comes in from a premium member goes to updating software (or the annual licence to photobucket I'm getting for us), or buying site promotion stuff for shows (flyers, stickers, ect).

ElantraXD isn't a threat, different car focus. Elantra club, forums, club, are also not a threat, different cars.

CrookedH is a nice site, I like a lot of their software, but we share no staff. They mainly focus on the GK, so no worries. HP is, from what I've seen, almost exclusively a Accent site now. Hyundai Forums and Hyundai Exchange, if I remember right, are more for folks looking for parts to tune up their cars or repair from an accident. I don't remember either of them being very tuner related.

As for SFR? It's a forum for a store. So no threat at all.

HT isn't a threat. It's mostly RD members from what I saw when I went on there last week, and banned or disatisfied members from here.




Bring up your issues in the Suggestions section and we'll see what we can do. Personal attacks will still happen. Unfortunately, as such a small and tight knit community, folks are going to bash heads. Faith lost my trust and friendship over some stupid shit, but we are still going to run into eachother. I know him and the way he acts, so I'm not stupid. Expecting me, or anyone else to act "Above all others" is rediculous. We are humans, and don't ever say we are more than that.



Dude, you know better than that. You think this is the only site that pushes the Search Feature? Every site that's been around for a bit does that. Spoon feeding folks isn't the answer, make them find it on their own. Being asked for the 4th time this month of a V6/6Speed will fit in their RD get's old. Asking which CAI is the best gets older. It's just a fact of forum posting. New folks want to be spoon fed, old folks are tired of spoon feeding. When you just give a short answer (one that will match the size of the word Search), you'll just get more questions that are answered in that same thread.

Example:

Q: Which CAI iz da bezt 4 mi tib... i want 2 b fstr.

A: AEM

Q: ORLY? Watz betr bout it? I found a dryer hoze for 2 dolla, won't dat wurk fin3?

See what I'm saying?

Sometimes if I'm in the mood I'll spoon feed a bunch. If I'm not, I won't. Same goes for most of the other members of any site.

Hell, most of the answers to the "Search" questions are in the FAQ.



Willing to hear anything in the suggestions forum.



We know it as fact. The only reason that 00tibby came up with another one was to compete with us.

We can see it easily.

1. Tim went off and started his own site some time ago with some other members. These members were the only satisfied members of Tim's at that time (ooTibby, Socks, a few others). 00tibby opens his own torrent site for videos and such.

2. Tim's site went at first, slowed down, and died. 00Tibby starts his own site on Tim's forum's ashes and directly copies styling and other elements of RDTiburon.com . Javageek and 00Tibby get into a lengthy argument over it, the other site gets changed. REDZ and 00Tibby have extensive argument over some parts. 00Tibby all but stops coming to RDT.

3. RDT loses Joshuwa as it's forum tech, forums fall into a disrepair state and a plea goes out for a new Tech. 00tibby gladly applies, and with previous experiences, gets rejected by REDZ and Java. 00Tibby goes and starts a new site.

4. 00Tibby only returns to RDT to promote his new site. A few folks go register.

5. REDZ get's messaged that Faith is a admin on the new site, other staff are notified and decision made by RDT Owner Java.

javageek Edited Member 'faithofadragon' account Jan 26 2007, 08:21 PM
^^^
PM from him followed 5 minutes later.



So, after 14 days of no activity in the thread, on a weekend none the less (site traffic falls off by about 80% on the weekend), and the next day after he's demoted, his only post is to bump and push HT.

Hmm...




I wonder who they were.




And your dissapointment matters to me how? How about me being dissapointed about how you bash me or RDT on your site? I'm very dissapointed. Now go to your room.



It's not about "Trade Secrets", as there are none. It's about being a staff member at 2 different forums and using the inside info you know at one against the other. As I said, folks are fully capable of going where they want.



My arrogance? Where? What was I arrogant about? My "We don't care" statement? We don't! I don't care, I haven't even registered there. I went there once to look at it when this thread was posted, was unimpressed, so that was it. We don't care that the site is there. How is that arrogant? It's another Hyundai site. Do we care that CrookedH.com is around now? Nope. Good for them. It doesn't effect us at all. We don't care that HT is there. Great for you guys, go have fun and work to further the community, the fact that your site is there has no effect on us at all.

WTF did you think I meant? That your site is there and we could give a shit about it? Uhm, everyone here knows me, I'd say that if it's what I wanted to say.



I'm sorry if my harsh words make you sleep poorly at night. I don't pull punches, and I won't. The internet is a harsh mean mean place, so if my 'harsh words' bother you, you really might want to look for another way to spend your time, as there are many MANY folks out there harsher than I by huge amounts.


Bottom line is, you guys are welcome here. Everyone is pretty much. You guys are welcome to post about your site and to have it in our links section if you want. It can even be in folks sigs (hmm, don't think I edited anyone's sig). Some of us are intelligent, and even have done well in school. So figuring out that someone bumping a dead thread right after they are fired is obviously a grab for attention on the new site isn't exactly HARD.

Petty inter-forum squabbling isn't helping anyone in the community.