The new Bin Laden audio tapes
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REDZMAN:
Uhm...
Osama is dead folks.
End of story.
He died in the bombing of Tora Bora.
Let's see...
1 video a week for months, then we bomb the hell out of the only place in Afganistan with the types of rocks he's standing in front of in the videos, now no more videos and spotty forged audio.
Hmm... Either we scared the crap out of him and broke his camera or the focker is dead.
Dead.
Im sorry man... but hes aliveUhm...
Osama is dead folks.
End of story.
He died in the bombing of Tora Bora.
Let's see...
1 video a week for months, then we bomb the hell out of the only place in Afganistan with the types of rocks he's standing in front of in the videos, now no more videos and spotty forged audio.
Hmm... Either we scared the crap out of him and broke his camera or the focker is dead.
Dead.
Is it a forgery? could be
Its funny... your the first military personnel that ive heard say hes alive
How long have you been in the military red?
I still think we are toying with the wrong person...
Saddam obviously knows we can wipe him out in about a week...
The US needs to pay attention to Korea
Saddam cant wipe out the West Coast in 20 minutes
Korea can
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So what makes you think he's still alive? The more attention he got after 9/11 the more he spoke and appeared outright. Then he dissapears all of a sudden, the attacks fall way off and we see no direct proof he's dead.
Everyone wants a body. I'm sorry, 500 pound bombs don't leave many bodys, or even much of a tunnel to find one in. B-52's carry so much ordanance that the carpet bombing is still as scary today as it was when they started in Vietnam. He's dead. I'm %99 sure of it.
Out of all the people I've talked to in the military, about %75 think he's dead. Considering I am still in the Army, that's alot of people. Again, I want proof.
BTW, I've been in the Army for 10 years. 3 as a Psychological Operations Specialist, and 7 as a Field Artillery Surveyor.
North Korea? I'm about 10 miles from there and not scared at all. People forget that the North's Army is old. Real old. It's huge, but their equipment is VERY old. Here's the writeup I did on it on New Tib...
One last thing, about "Wiping out the west coast". North Korea is BELIVED to have 1 or 2 nukes, and MAYBE the chance to build up to 5 to 6 more in about 4 months from the time they start refining uranium into plutonium. We are talking low yield nukes here. N. Korea doesn't have the capability or anything for making Thermonucular weapons. Those are the ones to be scared of. The small nukes they are talking about, while they could take out ... 40 to 70 thousand in a us city, are not at all as scary as the Thermonuclear weapons. One of those above SF would take out the entire bay area. Let's say...
2 million or more dead in the initial blast.
Now, they don't have a missile that can reach here yet (Hmmm, missile defence technology doesn't sound so BAD now does it?), and their new missile may be able to reach here, but even if it could it'd be as accurate as a Iraqi Scud. Which, if you remember, is like opening the trunk to your car sticking a bottle rocket in the back and lighting it, hoping it hits what you want.
Everyone wants a body. I'm sorry, 500 pound bombs don't leave many bodys, or even much of a tunnel to find one in. B-52's carry so much ordanance that the carpet bombing is still as scary today as it was when they started in Vietnam. He's dead. I'm %99 sure of it.
Out of all the people I've talked to in the military, about %75 think he's dead. Considering I am still in the Army, that's alot of people. Again, I want proof.
BTW, I've been in the Army for 10 years. 3 as a Psychological Operations Specialist, and 7 as a Field Artillery Surveyor.
North Korea? I'm about 10 miles from there and not scared at all. People forget that the North's Army is old. Real old. It's huge, but their equipment is VERY old. Here's the writeup I did on it on New Tib...
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Well, being that I'm stationed about 10 miles from N. Korea, many people have the wrong outlook on them. The problem with the north is that for 50 years they've been trying this stuff. There have been incidents that most of you probably don't remember. The axe murders in the 70's. The Russian that ran over the DMZ to defect and the shootout that ensued in the 80's. The numerous sub and patrol boat incidents that happen every year. This country has been at war for 50 years with the North. This is a cease fire, the war has never ended, and every year there are still deaths in this conflict.
Why don't we just run up there and get them? Well, remember peeps, the US is here as a member of the UN, not just to be here. We are here because we have volunteered the largest force to be garrisoned here as a tripwire in event of war.
Why hasn't the North run down here? They almost did. Several times. Besides the incidents I wrote about up above, in 1995 they shot down a OH-58 Kiowa scout chopper flying along the DMZ and it crashed on the North side. The Copilot was killed and the pilot was beaten and abused. He was returned about a month later. In the early 80's we discovered 3 tunnels, large enough to move a DIVISION of soldiers, equipment (All the way up to TANKS), and support, an HOUR thru, running under the DMZ. One was within 20 miles of Seoul. The North's chance to do so is gone. Their military is crumbling, Russia and China don't want to lose favored trade nation status and such with the US or be seen as supporting a crazy government. North Korea would have to go it on their own. When that "Tripwire" goes off, half the US military and a large section of the UN's military would be sent here immedately. The North would lose this time. Everything. Keep in mind that their equipment is getting very old (T-72's, a few T-80's, small Air Force, small Navy, ineffective Anti Tank weapons, ect.), and this will eventually go the way of the Iron Curtain. The north will fall and the countries will reunite, peacefully. I say within the next 10 to 15 years.
South Korea Army... DO NOT discount these guys. I've worked with them 2 times now and they are some of the toughest and most dedicated soldiers I've ever seen. They are beaten and shown classified videos of what happened in the last Korean war. They have VERY good equipment, and if the "Tripwire" goes off, every male in the South would be a reservist.
All this stuff in the news. We call it saber rattling. While it may be a bit disturbing that they are starting a Nuke Reactor back up, they are not moblizing their Army past where they usually are this time of the year. If the North wants to give it a try, we'd have about 2 days notice before hand. As for WMD, they will not use lots of persistant agents (Chemical or Bio agents that stick around) because they want this land for farming and such. Would YOU want to eat a poisoned potato? Non Persistant (Short duration Chem or Bio weapons) would be use very sparingly. Remember, they want a lightning war, get it over quick because they don't have the infrastructure to back a long war anymore. They won't use much of them because they'd also have to run and fight thru the same areas using the same protective equipment (Actually, their chem protective equipment is obsolete) and suffering from the same drawbacks. Nukes? Well, it's sorta hard to farm radioactive soil, so most likely if they DO have nukes, they wouldn't use them on South Korea. However, they may try on Japan or elsewhere, but with the missles they have to get them there, the Japaneese Navy's Ageis Destroyers and our Patriot Missile batteries around South Korea would most likely take them out (Also remember that the Patriot is MUCH improved over the Desert Storm model).
In short, North Korea is troublesome, that's for sure. Dangerous? Yes. Could they start the war back up? Definately. Will they? No. They want everyone to see that they are dangerous and to make the US look bad because we cut off the support we were giving them. Why else would they talk about the US invading the North? 37,000 troops versus 2,000,000? Not. They are playing the same game as Yam does with SR. Angelic answers and "I'm never wrong, YOU are."
The biggest problem the North poses to us is exporting of WMD or their components.
On to Iraq...
Seriousness? VERY. Remember that this country has USED WMD in the past on it's OWN people and on Iran during the war those countries fought. Saddam is VERY unstable and has rebuilt a majority of his military. Saddam and Osama went to High School together and used to bang sorority sisters (I can prove none of that however... ). Yamanenko... I mean Saddam, has also provided training grounds, equipment, and seclusion for terrorists in his past and in the present.
On a personal sidenote, I've got this sneaking feeling that this focker helped with the 9-11 attacks.
Iraq needs new government. Period. The people won't vote him out of office because if they tried they'd me punished BADLY. They refuse to work with the rest of the world, even though, I must admit, I'm impressed by how much they HAVE been trying to do.
Oil? For everyone that thinks this is about oil, remember the fact that the FIRST Gulf War was a HUGE mulitnational effort, and as soon as we pushed them out of Kuwait, we stopped. If it was about Oil, we would have kept going and gotten all the oil that Iraq has also. Remember that we've lived without their oil for a LONG time now. Do we need it? Nah.
I think that's good enough.Why don't we just run up there and get them? Well, remember peeps, the US is here as a member of the UN, not just to be here. We are here because we have volunteered the largest force to be garrisoned here as a tripwire in event of war.
Why hasn't the North run down here? They almost did. Several times. Besides the incidents I wrote about up above, in 1995 they shot down a OH-58 Kiowa scout chopper flying along the DMZ and it crashed on the North side. The Copilot was killed and the pilot was beaten and abused. He was returned about a month later. In the early 80's we discovered 3 tunnels, large enough to move a DIVISION of soldiers, equipment (All the way up to TANKS), and support, an HOUR thru, running under the DMZ. One was within 20 miles of Seoul. The North's chance to do so is gone. Their military is crumbling, Russia and China don't want to lose favored trade nation status and such with the US or be seen as supporting a crazy government. North Korea would have to go it on their own. When that "Tripwire" goes off, half the US military and a large section of the UN's military would be sent here immedately. The North would lose this time. Everything. Keep in mind that their equipment is getting very old (T-72's, a few T-80's, small Air Force, small Navy, ineffective Anti Tank weapons, ect.), and this will eventually go the way of the Iron Curtain. The north will fall and the countries will reunite, peacefully. I say within the next 10 to 15 years.
South Korea Army... DO NOT discount these guys. I've worked with them 2 times now and they are some of the toughest and most dedicated soldiers I've ever seen. They are beaten and shown classified videos of what happened in the last Korean war. They have VERY good equipment, and if the "Tripwire" goes off, every male in the South would be a reservist.
All this stuff in the news. We call it saber rattling. While it may be a bit disturbing that they are starting a Nuke Reactor back up, they are not moblizing their Army past where they usually are this time of the year. If the North wants to give it a try, we'd have about 2 days notice before hand. As for WMD, they will not use lots of persistant agents (Chemical or Bio agents that stick around) because they want this land for farming and such. Would YOU want to eat a poisoned potato? Non Persistant (Short duration Chem or Bio weapons) would be use very sparingly. Remember, they want a lightning war, get it over quick because they don't have the infrastructure to back a long war anymore. They won't use much of them because they'd also have to run and fight thru the same areas using the same protective equipment (Actually, their chem protective equipment is obsolete) and suffering from the same drawbacks. Nukes? Well, it's sorta hard to farm radioactive soil, so most likely if they DO have nukes, they wouldn't use them on South Korea. However, they may try on Japan or elsewhere, but with the missles they have to get them there, the Japaneese Navy's Ageis Destroyers and our Patriot Missile batteries around South Korea would most likely take them out (Also remember that the Patriot is MUCH improved over the Desert Storm model).
In short, North Korea is troublesome, that's for sure. Dangerous? Yes. Could they start the war back up? Definately. Will they? No. They want everyone to see that they are dangerous and to make the US look bad because we cut off the support we were giving them. Why else would they talk about the US invading the North? 37,000 troops versus 2,000,000? Not. They are playing the same game as Yam does with SR. Angelic answers and "I'm never wrong, YOU are."
The biggest problem the North poses to us is exporting of WMD or their components.
On to Iraq...
Seriousness? VERY. Remember that this country has USED WMD in the past on it's OWN people and on Iran during the war those countries fought. Saddam is VERY unstable and has rebuilt a majority of his military. Saddam and Osama went to High School together and used to bang sorority sisters (I can prove none of that however... ). Yamanenko... I mean Saddam, has also provided training grounds, equipment, and seclusion for terrorists in his past and in the present.
On a personal sidenote, I've got this sneaking feeling that this focker helped with the 9-11 attacks.
Iraq needs new government. Period. The people won't vote him out of office because if they tried they'd me punished BADLY. They refuse to work with the rest of the world, even though, I must admit, I'm impressed by how much they HAVE been trying to do.
Oil? For everyone that thinks this is about oil, remember the fact that the FIRST Gulf War was a HUGE mulitnational effort, and as soon as we pushed them out of Kuwait, we stopped. If it was about Oil, we would have kept going and gotten all the oil that Iraq has also. Remember that we've lived without their oil for a LONG time now. Do we need it? Nah.
One last thing, about "Wiping out the west coast". North Korea is BELIVED to have 1 or 2 nukes, and MAYBE the chance to build up to 5 to 6 more in about 4 months from the time they start refining uranium into plutonium. We are talking low yield nukes here. N. Korea doesn't have the capability or anything for making Thermonucular weapons. Those are the ones to be scared of. The small nukes they are talking about, while they could take out ... 40 to 70 thousand in a us city, are not at all as scary as the Thermonuclear weapons. One of those above SF would take out the entire bay area. Let's say...
2 million or more dead in the initial blast.
Now, they don't have a missile that can reach here yet (Hmmm, missile defence technology doesn't sound so BAD now does it?), and their new missile may be able to reach here, but even if it could it'd be as accurate as a Iraqi Scud. Which, if you remember, is like opening the trunk to your car sticking a bottle rocket in the back and lighting it, hoping it hits what you want.
i think it's ignorant for people to question redz. no, he doesn't know everything, but he's as close to the real information as most of us will ever get. i have no way of deducing whether or not bin laden's dead, or of estimating the threat from n korea. redz has been trained by our military to at least have a better understanding of this s*it than the rest of us. i think there's a good chance we got bin laden. but it's only common sense that there wouldn't be a body left. yeah, if a sniper popped him in the head, we'd have a body, but all of the s*it we dropped on afganistan would have obliterated any person directly affected by the blast. questioning redz is like questioning random. unless you're educated in the subject or have conducted endless research, you don't know enough to question someone who has.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ack_binladen_dc
think they're trying to tell the public something to help the military's cause or summ'n in some way?
think they're trying to tell the public something to help the military's cause or summ'n in some way?


