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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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I have never done any drugs in my life (hell..I've never even tried a single cigarette), but I find it quite intersting that Canada is doing this, and the fact that the US is trying to strong arm them against this.

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Canadian Pot Law Change To Bring Increased Border Security, U.S. Says

Washington, DC: U.S. officials will consider tightening security along
the U.S./Canadian border if Parliament moves forward with plans to
decriminalize the possession and cultivation of up to 30 grams of
marijuana, according to statements made recently by Drug Czar John
Walters.

"It's not my job to judge Canadian policy," Walters said. "But it is my
job to protect America from dangerous threats, [and]... we have to make
security at the border tougher because [marijuana] is a dangerous threat
to our young people and [decriminalization] makes the problem of
patrolling the border more difficult."

Canadian Justice Minister Martin Cauchon announced last week that he would
propose legislation in Parliament within the first four months of 2003 to
decriminalize marijuana. Cauchon's statements came after a pair of
Canadian Parliamentary reports advocated liberalizing the country's pot
laws.

Walters and other U.S. bureaucrats have directed repeated threats toward
Canada and other nations that have considered decriminalizing marijuana.
Earlier this year, Walters said that that the U.S. would impose trade
sanctions against Canada if Parliament were to loosen its marijuana
policies. Last year, government officials threatened to withhold foreign
aid from Jamaica if they moved forward with a Parliamentary recommendation
to decriminalization pot.

NORML Foundation Executive Director Allen St. Pierre found Walter's latest
rhetoric unsurprising. "The United States has a history of exporting its
failed drug policies throughout the globe, and using strong-arm tactics to
ensure that other nations do not depart from those policies," he said.
Nonetheless, St. Pierre dismissed Walters' latest comments as no more than
"saber rattling."

"Ultimately, Canada's rejection of America's 'do drugs; do time' policies
will prove to be too much for U.S. politicians to ignore," he said.

Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham has downplayed Walters'
statements and said that Canada will move forward with decriminalization
as anticipated.

In recent years, Parliament has legalized the use of medical marijuana by
qualified patients as well as the cultivation of industrial hemp by
licensed farmers. Both activities remain strictly illegal under U.S.
federal law.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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Yes, I ahve to admit, best pot comes from Quebec. even if I never did drugs.

This is the kind of things you learn when you're from a place where this is the principal activity of teenagers..
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 11:06 PM
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Ya know, I can't say I think it would be a bad idea to legalize pot. At least it might give a better chance for more control.
And besides....it'll boost Buffalo's economy....what better munchies than BUFFALO WINGS!
I can say we at least do food right here.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 12:06 AM
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I'm with Visionz on this one; I've never done any drugs or taken a drag from a cigarette, hell, I don't even like taking Tylenol.

I think the whole reason behind this move to legalize marijauna by the Canadian government is how lucrative the idea is. Just like selling tobacco, I imagine that the Feds think its possible to rake in a large amount of dough from drug addicts and the like.

Here's my utopian world... All the companies that produce cigarettes, alcohol, even some fast food restaurants be converted into scientific facilities that try and find cures for the deseases their products spawn in our society.

But as far as the Americans being so anal about it, that's a bit absurd. Didn't President Clinton inhale marijuana? No wait, he didn't inhale, just like he didn't have sexual relations with Monica Lewinski. As far as both Canadian and American gevernment officials are concerned, not only do they smoke pot, they probably get the really good $hit, simply because they're all overpayed, and can afford it.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 12:43 AM
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http://www.marijuanahomedelivery.ca/member.html

I can't believe that this is all you would need to make an order:

2) A sworn declaration, signed by a person authorised to administer oaths, declaring that you suffer from at least one of the conditions or symptoms treatable or alleviated with therapeutic cannabis.

[ December 20, 2002, 07:44 AM: Message edited by: Skitzo ]
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 02:51 AM
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Just remember that the owners of the site (Club Compassion) are presently in court, waiting for a judgment about them selling marijuana to people with disease.

This site won't last long...
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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and just because it might be legal for them to sell it TO you...doesn't mean it's legal for you to have it.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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Its all about fundies on the right and big tobacco and alcohol companies having a monopoly on "sins" in the USA. To think otherwise is to engage is active stupidity.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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I don't understand why the U.S tries to impose ITS political views/rules on other governments. If they spent more time trying to control the crap within its own borders, they may get more beneficial things accomplished for its own citizens.
I don't expect everyone to understand why our Canadian government would make this decision, but rather than strong-arming or trying to convince them to make a decision that benefits the U.S, why can't the U.S officials just make the necessary changes to cope with the decision. Like they say, boost border patrol- fair enough. but I've even heard that the U.S has gone so far to say that they would end Trade-ties with Canada.
Talk about crying over spilled milk. rolleyes.gif
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:31 AM
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I think decriminalization != legalization.

I think part of the mentality is why waste expensive court time on somebody who had a couple grams in his pocket.

Friends told me my views on pot would change when I had kids... Well, I have a three month old now, and Lemme tell you, I'd rather when she was 12 years old she came home stoned rather than drunk.

I've had Alcohol Poisoning, but I have never OD'd on pot no matter how hard I may have tried..

When I had to much to drink, I've jumped off of two story buildings while running from the cops, or tried to see how far I could jump off my friends cabin roof into thorn bushes, or participated in Stair diving competitions (don't ask)..

while stoned, I may have fallen off a couch.

Why then is it considered worse to be caught with a J, then with a bottle of JD.
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