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Old 07-20-2012, 06:50 AM
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Yeah, unfortunately this kind of thing happens all the time, and innocent people do die.
Old 07-20-2012, 07:27 AM
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I would haunt the sh*t outta the police department. Erryone would be stabbing themselves with their name badges and getting shocked with static.





But seriously, even if I had a gun, if a group of people are rushing my house with automatic weapons and body armour, the worst I'd do would be to try and sneak out. Police or not, you'd get dropped on your hole the moment you say boo.
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SWAT does not always have to announce prior to entering. The purpose of SWAT is usually strategic entry without alarming the individuals inside.



It depends on the warrant. There are no-knock warrants.



There are too many variables in the OP. If they hit the wrong house, several people responsible. If they announce themselves, homeowner is possibly responsible.



SOME people here may sit in their family room watching TV with a loaded AK sitting next to them in case someone enters their home, but if SWAT busts in, disrespek'in my famly, I doubt I'll have time to grab a gun and aim it before they get to me.



Old 07-20-2012, 11:47 AM
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Ya i seen that one to. But a No knock entry is exactly what is sounds like the point of it is to have the highest eliminate of surprise but they still announce they are police on entry.

I'm not saying these things dont happen its a job and there are mistakes; but there is a big difference in getting pickle on your Burger and not wanting them then getting your house raided and it being the wrong one lol.

Sorry but law enforcement is what I do so kinda on there side or is it: I have watched to much TV lol
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If law enforcement is what you do, you shouldn't be defensive, you should be ashamed for these guys and bug your higher-ups to take the opportunity to ensure that extra "announce-on-entry" training happens where you work.



People slip up. Sometimes a guy forgets his line making a $40M paycheck for a movie. Sometimes a guy forgets his line making $50k/yr. as the door man on the stack. People sometimes forget to do and say what they should. In MOST cases this does not result in people dying needlessly.



SOME of us have guns handy, loaded and ready to go ALL THE TIME. SOME of us have also heard stories about how Goblins break a door down dressed like police, claiming to be police, at the start of a home invasion. SOME of us wish the country's police would wake the f*ck up and stop doing no-knock raids for minor drug B.S.
Old 07-20-2012, 10:39 PM
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btw.. my "SOME" was targeted towards Floyd.
Old 07-20-2012, 11:19 PM
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Haha!



Seriously, I generally keep the house completely dark and silent at night. I have a Glock 22 in .40 S&W within arm's reach equipped with radioactive tritium night sights so I can shoot in the dark.



But enough about me...
Old 07-21-2012, 12:00 AM
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Hey I do private security not a police officer and I don't like gun hoe officers as much as anybody else. But like I said before it is a job and they make mistakes (if u didnt read any of my previous post)



For all you have the right to bar arms take full advantage!!!
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But I mean really



Compare the pair

-The combat readiness of a SWAT team, that has planned the raid, been briefed, loaded all weapons, knows where his homies are, and has just had a cup of coffee

-The combat readiness of a groggy HA member, being woken up at 3AM, trying to establish if there is even anyone home blah blah blah



I'm quite certain that most of us would get thoroughly rolled.
Old 07-21-2012, 10:17 AM
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Lol anyone would b face down getting handcuffed in nothing but there draws before they could even say Hyundai aftermarket!



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