Birth Certificate is Fake
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I'd be happy to accept a genuine birth cert. I'd even be happy to see a good excuse why this one has dozens of layers in it. Failing that, I'll be happy to see a Congressional investigation into why the F this guy CAN'T come up with one that doesn't prove to be faked.
I can walk eight steps from where I sit and come up with my birth cert. long form. He's the frikken PRESIDENT.
I can walk eight steps from where I sit and come up with my birth cert. long form. He's the frikken PRESIDENT.
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then theres this...
Legit YO
but what i really cant get my head around.. the background... if it was a scan, the background wouldn't be tiled on the whole page from the scanning software...
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but what i really cant get my head around.. the background... if it was a scan, the background wouldn't be tiled on the whole page from the scanning software...
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The background is the easiest part to pass off. They thought it would be a good idea to scan it and slap it on a security background, maybe so people didnt start running off copies like they could from the image the Associated Press posted, which was on a white background.
The article you linked, it is BS. It is in fact very insulting, but most of the people who would fall for it will never notice they are being insulted. To those who know what edited images look like, it is propaganda pure & simple.
To scan something and slap it on a background, you have to do exactly ZERO with optical character recognition. Scan. Select and delete the white background area. Paste what remains on the background, done. Two layers. Not 50. I do Photoshizzle all day every day at work. You want to know what it looks like when you alter an image that will be published at a lower resolution, and you don't care what it looks like at high resolution? It looks exactly like this:
^ THAT is on the original from whitehouse.gov which you can zoom in and see for yourself. There are a BUNCH more similar examples like it, where letters that should all be in the same typeface and at the same saturation and sharpness as their neighbors, are entirely different. Those different letters tend to be different objects in the .pdf, as you can see when you zoom in and out on the .pdf.
(update, 5 minutes later)
This cat is out of the bag. If they change that .pdf a hundred geeks will see it and report on it. They either have to look like total n00bs at cover-ups, or they have to leave the heavily-altered first-posted document online.
Standing by for CNN to ignore this whatever-the-hell-is-going-on in 3...2...
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FINALLY a legitimate excuse to post this:
The article you linked, it is BS. It is in fact very insulting, but most of the people who would fall for it will never notice they are being insulted. To those who know what edited images look like, it is propaganda pure & simple.
To scan something and slap it on a background, you have to do exactly ZERO with optical character recognition. Scan. Select and delete the white background area. Paste what remains on the background, done. Two layers. Not 50. I do Photoshizzle all day every day at work. You want to know what it looks like when you alter an image that will be published at a lower resolution, and you don't care what it looks like at high resolution? It looks exactly like this:
^ THAT is on the original from whitehouse.gov which you can zoom in and see for yourself. There are a BUNCH more similar examples like it, where letters that should all be in the same typeface and at the same saturation and sharpness as their neighbors, are entirely different. Those different letters tend to be different objects in the .pdf, as you can see when you zoom in and out on the .pdf.
(update, 5 minutes later)
This cat is out of the bag. If they change that .pdf a hundred geeks will see it and report on it. They either have to look like total n00bs at cover-ups, or they have to leave the heavily-altered first-posted document online.
Standing by for CNN to ignore this whatever-the-hell-is-going-on in 3...2...
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FINALLY a legitimate excuse to post this:
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I use photoshop a lot at work as well and the original certificate image posted by stocker appears to have been someone typing a similar 1 with the text tool then hitting it with the blur tool afterwards in an attempt to fade it enough so it would appear older like the original text. Anyone who knows how alter images should have known that the best way do something like that would be to copy an existing 1 from one of the characters to the left so that it looks exactly like the original text especially when you zoom in. I always double check edits like that at the pixel level to look for inconsistencies like what we see on his certificate.
I'm assuming that stocker used the copy paste technique to make his more realistic version.
The last thing I always do before converting my image to a PDF file is to flatten all the layers down so the person receiving my final copy doesn't have to deal all my individual layers if they plan on printing it and that also prevents them from tearing my image apart and copying out individual layers without my approval.
I'm assuming that stocker used the copy paste technique to make his more realistic version.
The last thing I always do before converting my image to a PDF file is to flatten all the layers down so the person receiving my final copy doesn't have to deal all my individual layers if they plan on printing it and that also prevents them from tearing my image apart and copying out individual layers without my approval.
