Arizona Hoa Ownage
06-21-2008, 08:14 PM
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There's a 60+ page post on vwvortex about this guy in Villagio (Tempe) that took on a boot company and won. The posts are epic. Here's a couple of links for condensed links to just get the good stuff:
Page 1(Original Post):
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3880087&page=1
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...880087&page=26
2nd concatenation
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...880087&page=51
continued
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?i ... 87&page=52
and this is just effin' hilarious:
hahaha, this is awesome. and HUGE now.
the jist:
Arizona is full of HUGE private housing developments that usually force you to join a Home Owners Association when purchasing property in their "community". Once they have you as an HOA member they can enfore and/or change any rule upon you such as this popular one:
forcing everyone to display a parking pass to park in front of their own home (and they must purchase the parking pass every year). Why? Probably cause there's 700+ homes in the community and it's an easy way to make a lot of money. But what happens if you don't display your parking pass when you park in front of your own house? you get booted with one of those orange clamps and are forced to pay the $140 removal fee. What if you can't pay the removal fee? Your car gets towed and you have to pay more fees.
One man decided to stick it back to the HOA. He came home one night after a long day and forgot to place the pass on his rearview mirror. Why did he even take it off you ask? Well, living in one of the worst auto theft states he doesn't like displaying where he lives while parking his car around town (it's a nice car btw). He got booted.
Then he got to thinking..
So the guy called the cops to see if he could legally do this, dolly his booted car back into his garage where the boot company can not retrieve (or tow) his vehicle. They said yes, it would just be a civil matter so long as he did not damage the boot, i.e. cut it off and put it on the HOA President's car.. LOL
from there, you can read the rest...
funny story. they have T-Shirts and shit.. LOL
Page 1(Original Post):
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3880087&page=1
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...880087&page=26
2nd concatenation
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothrea...880087&page=51
continued
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?i ... 87&page=52
and this is just effin' hilarious:
hahaha, this is awesome. and HUGE now.
the jist:
Arizona is full of HUGE private housing developments that usually force you to join a Home Owners Association when purchasing property in their "community". Once they have you as an HOA member they can enfore and/or change any rule upon you such as this popular one:
forcing everyone to display a parking pass to park in front of their own home (and they must purchase the parking pass every year). Why? Probably cause there's 700+ homes in the community and it's an easy way to make a lot of money. But what happens if you don't display your parking pass when you park in front of your own house? you get booted with one of those orange clamps and are forced to pay the $140 removal fee. What if you can't pay the removal fee? Your car gets towed and you have to pay more fees.
One man decided to stick it back to the HOA. He came home one night after a long day and forgot to place the pass on his rearview mirror. Why did he even take it off you ask? Well, living in one of the worst auto theft states he doesn't like displaying where he lives while parking his car around town (it's a nice car btw). He got booted.
Then he got to thinking..
QUOTE
But this leads to the following question. If I go out to my neighbour's car and say I attach my trailer to his hitch, or my bike to his rack, how is that any different than a PRIVATE company attaching THEIR property (the clamp) to my car? Just because the device is MEANT to stop the vehicle from moving, doesn't actually mean I can't move the vehicle if I have the means, does it?
This makes no sense. If you are a private company, and you purchase things to bolt to other peoples' property WITHOUT their permission, you are fair game for potentially not receiving their property back? Why is it theft?
Furthermore, if I lock a bike to my neighbour's cars' bikerack, and he cuts the wheel to get it off, then why would he be held liable for damages? Again, I see no difference when a PRIVATE company clamps their property to your car and you want to get it off. I'm not sure why the cops had a problem with this - it wasn't the municipality - it was a private company.
This makes no sense. If you are a private company, and you purchase things to bolt to other peoples' property WITHOUT their permission, you are fair game for potentially not receiving their property back? Why is it theft?
Furthermore, if I lock a bike to my neighbour's cars' bikerack, and he cuts the wheel to get it off, then why would he be held liable for damages? Again, I see no difference when a PRIVATE company clamps their property to your car and you want to get it off. I'm not sure why the cops had a problem with this - it wasn't the municipality - it was a private company.
So the guy called the cops to see if he could legally do this, dolly his booted car back into his garage where the boot company can not retrieve (or tow) his vehicle. They said yes, it would just be a civil matter so long as he did not damage the boot, i.e. cut it off and put it on the HOA President's car.. LOL
from there, you can read the rest...
funny story. they have T-Shirts and shit.. LOL
06-21-2008, 10:34 PM
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damn it your last link is bad, i wanna see how this ends
never mind, it's the same thread, i'm stupid lol
Ok, apparently that thread got locked. The story might continue on this forum (nothing interesting yet):
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/vie...php?f=3&t=3
^ this is the complete up to date condensed story
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/vie...php?f=3&t=2
never mind, it's the same thread, i'm stupid lol
Ok, apparently that thread got locked. The story might continue on this forum (nothing interesting yet):
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/vie...php?f=3&t=3
^ this is the complete up to date condensed story
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/vie...php?f=3&t=2
06-22-2008, 12:01 AM
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pages 51-53 has all of the guy's post. Good for him for sticking it to the man, that company is out of control, i wonder what's going to happen? It's amazing how many people are following this story, specially if you saw how many sites it's been linked to including this one....rofl at all the t-shirts...
06-22-2008, 01:03 PM
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http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3880087
this has hit most of the major blogs, forums on the net, and a whole new twist has happeded, APS got a court order to get the thread taken down from the vortex...
Apparently the APS guys DON' T KNOW the power of the net.. Most of you all remember the M3 guy that got shafted on ebay right?
The saga has moved over here , it was pretty entertaining
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.c......php?f=3&t=3
popcorn.gif
It looks as if the "Dolly Man" has been invited onto AZ's local rock station 98KUPD, known for less than normal radio interviews... If it happens it'll be on the morning show I bet which is from 5:30am to 10am PST.
www.98KUPD.com will stream the interview for sure (if it happens).
haha, a google search for "Dolly Man" brings up this story in the #2 and #3 results.
this is history in the making.
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I don't know if many people are reading along with this, but here's the condensed version with only the man involved and his posts:
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/vie...php?f=3&t=3
enjoy
this has hit most of the major blogs, forums on the net, and a whole new twist has happeded, APS got a court order to get the thread taken down from the vortex...
Apparently the APS guys DON' T KNOW the power of the net.. Most of you all remember the M3 guy that got shafted on ebay right?
The saga has moved over here , it was pretty entertaining
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.c......php?f=3&t=3
popcorn.gif
It looks as if the "Dolly Man" has been invited onto AZ's local rock station 98KUPD, known for less than normal radio interviews... If it happens it'll be on the morning show I bet which is from 5:30am to 10am PST.
www.98KUPD.com will stream the interview for sure (if it happens).
haha, a google search for "Dolly Man" brings up this story in the #2 and #3 results.
this is history in the making.
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I don't know if many people are reading along with this, but here's the condensed version with only the man involved and his posts:
http://www.parkingenforcementforum.com/vie...php?f=3&t=3
enjoy
