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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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> ----- I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.
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> Please read it and join with us .By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in my town Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon o f gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) .. and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
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> How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more p eople within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you I didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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I got that email a couple of days ago, and cheap is $1.00 which those damn gas stations at the FL / GA border always have. Too bad i live just outside of DC, our prices are some of the highest in the country, (but still no where near what i've heard LA is paying)
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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It's hitting 1.71 now here in Central Florida.... it's just rediculous
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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wrong. OPEC and the oil companies control the supply of oil and therefore gasoline, government controls the tax level and economic/environmental regulation, increases in trucking fees and new regulation on drivers, and on top of all that, demand has increased because people in the U.S. have a thing about V8 engines.

The point? The guy at the pump is at the mercy of forces beyond his control.

You want cheaper gas prices 1) keep a republican president in office 2) Work against the "environment lobby" to help get some new refineries built 3) Contact your congressman to let them know you support expanded domestic oil drilling and pumping. 4) Get a car that gets better gas milage. Maybe 5-10 years from now the price of gas will come down again.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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OPEC is pretty much all of the Saudi rich people who control all the oil over there. They do what they want. In my opinion, we should buy oil from Iraq for a cheap price to reimburse our economy for all the shit we did for them. We would be helping ourselves as well as their country (they'd be getting money from us and we'd be getting cheaper oil from them). OPEC is nothing but a monopolistic controlling group of rich Saudi's and they can pretty much do what they want. At some of the gas stations around here, they have stickers at the pumps saying that 40.3cents of what you pay per gallon goes to federal taxes, and another 38.2 goes for state taxes... I'm not sure the exact numbers, but it came to close to $1.

Like I said... we should 'allow' ourselves to buy the Iraqi oil for a cheap price, and take it as repayment for what we did for their country. The reason we don't use the oil we drill here in the U.S. is because we make more money exporting it and importing other oil, so it would only hurt our economy.

What I don't understand is why the democrats (when Clinton was in office) didn't make the car, oil, and manufacturing companies come down on prices of oil and gas. They controlled both houses and the presidency and really could have done anything they wanted, but they did nothing about the economy and controlling gas and oil prices in the U.S. It seemed like the perfect time to do it, now everybody's blaming Bush. I don't get it evil.gif

And the gas stations hike the prices up around major holidays and major weeks of travel (Spring Break, Memorial Day, etc.) and I can't see how that's tolerated, because the only reason they do it is because they know people are going to have to buy gas. It's pathetic.

The average gas prices in Tennessee are usually much lower than the rest of the country. We're at $1.62 as of last night on the news... but most places close to me are between $1.62 and $1.68
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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What I don't understand is why the democrats (when Clinton was in office) didn't make the car, oil, and manufacturing companies come down on prices of oil and gas. They controlled both houses and the presidency and really could have done anything they wanted, but they did nothing about the economy and controlling gas and oil prices in the U.S.


Yes, they did do something about gas prices. Back in 1998, Clinton asked OPEC to cut back oil production so the price of oil would go UP as a political favor to give a boost to the Russian economy. Oil prices have never really gone back down. [/code]
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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From all of the research I've done I have found that both of the Bush campaigns along with several other republican functions have been funded by the Saudis. I really don't think that keeping a republican in office is the answer. I'm not saying democrats are all that great either but at least when Clinton was in gas was never over 1.25/gal around here.

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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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it goes up over time. Inflation and other causes cause it to always be increasing, just sometimes at a faster rate than others. I don't think it's about Democrat vs. Republican. I was watching a recent democratic discussion with the different people (sharpton, kerry, edwards, etc.) and they all had really good ideas and really good plans. Nobody mentioned how they would go about it.

"Everybody needs health care. Everybody needs to have a job. Everybody needs insurance."
DUH?! Yet they NEVER explained how they would do it or what they would cut back on to go about financing it. Everybody in the world agrees with their points of view, we just differ on their plan to get us there. Republicans and Democrats have a lot of the same interests, they just argue over how to go about it. They'll never be able to make everybody happy unfortunately.

It's really got me upset how some Fire Chief in NY was on the news talking about how Bush shouldn't use 9/11 images in his campaign commercials (the fire chief who said that is also a big guy for the Kerry campaign board in NY). If the democrats can make the war in Iraq a political campaign issue... why can't Bush use the REASON for the war in Iraq a political campaign issue? And so many people are complaining about the war in Iraq and blaming Republicans for it... Clinton and Kerry talked about it constantly during Clinton's terms and talked about how we needed to go after them and get him out of power. Bush is just the one who did it. I will post something when I find it... an e-mail I got recently talking about this...
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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How soon they forget! Old records can still bite!!!!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten time since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry( D - MA), and others Oct. 9,1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has .... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that .. Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation .. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real" - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THESE SAME DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED--THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR UNECESSARILY!
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Hey, someone took some time to dig it up for me.

Thanks mang.
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