Remote Starter on standard trannys
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From: Salisbury, MD
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Remote Starter on standard trannys
Anyone have one? I got one for my birthday and its been sitting around. The thing is, it was bought for my by an aunt and she didnt know I have a standard. I know you have to by pass the clutch and always make sure its in neutral with the e-brake on. Anybody have one on their car?
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Put me down on the "this would be a bad idea" column. Unless you can come up with a really good way to confirm that the transaxle is out of gear, just sell the kit.
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Give these guys a call and see if they can walk you through the install or see if they have any advice. They give a great write up on how they install these on manual tranny cars:
http://www.mobileedgeonline.com/wp-c...-transmission/
http://www.mobileedgeonline.com/wp-c...-transmission/
We are asked this question all the time. The short answer is: Sure you can! But I am confident that you want more information than that! Read on.
A Little History
We used to stay away from remote car starters on manual shift cars. Back in the day, there were all kinds of methods to do a remote start in a standard shift. One manufacturer had little lights that you had to line up to ensure that the shifter was in the neutral position. What a joke that was. There was nothing out there that appeared to be both safe and reliable.
Today, installations in standard transmission vehicles make up about 20% of our car starter business. So what changed our minds? A couple of years ago, our remote starter vendor came up with a very easy to use, reliable and safe method. That method has been improved upon and today, is very foolproof.
What’s the Big Deal?
There are several issues with installing a remote starter in stick shift. First of all, you must have the emergency brake on. Second, the vehicle must be in neutral. If either one of these conditions does not exist during the remote start sequence, the result could be deadly. The car could buck forward and roll down a hill. Not good.
So in order to make a remote starter function safely, it needs to be able to monitor both the E brake and the shifter.
How do we do that?
The first one is simple. Most vehicles have a wire attached to the emergency brake. If the brake is not engaged, the remote car starter realizes this and will not let the vehicle start. But what about the shifter?
In most cases, the shifter is a manual device and there is not a wire that can tell the remote starter without a doubt that the car is in neutral.
Our vendor has a very effective way of doing this. First of all, when you are ready to get out of your car, you need to engage the emergency brake. You do this before you shut off the car. This is a sign to the remote car starter to keep the car running even after you turn off the key. Next you actually turn off the key and the car stays running. Now you make sure that the car is in neutral and get out of the car. When you close the door, the car shuts off. Why go through all of that? If the car is still running when you get out of the car, obviously it had to be in neutral.
When you want to remote start your vehicle, simply press the button on the remote. As long as no-one has opened the door since you exited, the car will start. If the door was opened, the car will not start. This is a safety feature to ensure that no one has gotten in the vehicle and put it back in gear. Opening the door interrupts the specific series of events that needs to happen in order to start the car remotely. Once the door is opened, you need to repeat the process outlined above before remote car starting.
We feel that this is a very easy, effective and safe way to add a remote car starter to your vehicle. Please stop in anytime for a free estimate on a remote car starter for your standard shift vehicle.
A Little History
We used to stay away from remote car starters on manual shift cars. Back in the day, there were all kinds of methods to do a remote start in a standard shift. One manufacturer had little lights that you had to line up to ensure that the shifter was in the neutral position. What a joke that was. There was nothing out there that appeared to be both safe and reliable.
Today, installations in standard transmission vehicles make up about 20% of our car starter business. So what changed our minds? A couple of years ago, our remote starter vendor came up with a very easy to use, reliable and safe method. That method has been improved upon and today, is very foolproof.
What’s the Big Deal?
There are several issues with installing a remote starter in stick shift. First of all, you must have the emergency brake on. Second, the vehicle must be in neutral. If either one of these conditions does not exist during the remote start sequence, the result could be deadly. The car could buck forward and roll down a hill. Not good.
So in order to make a remote starter function safely, it needs to be able to monitor both the E brake and the shifter.
How do we do that?
The first one is simple. Most vehicles have a wire attached to the emergency brake. If the brake is not engaged, the remote car starter realizes this and will not let the vehicle start. But what about the shifter?
In most cases, the shifter is a manual device and there is not a wire that can tell the remote starter without a doubt that the car is in neutral.
Our vendor has a very effective way of doing this. First of all, when you are ready to get out of your car, you need to engage the emergency brake. You do this before you shut off the car. This is a sign to the remote car starter to keep the car running even after you turn off the key. Next you actually turn off the key and the car stays running. Now you make sure that the car is in neutral and get out of the car. When you close the door, the car shuts off. Why go through all of that? If the car is still running when you get out of the car, obviously it had to be in neutral.
When you want to remote start your vehicle, simply press the button on the remote. As long as no-one has opened the door since you exited, the car will start. If the door was opened, the car will not start. This is a safety feature to ensure that no one has gotten in the vehicle and put it back in gear. Opening the door interrupts the specific series of events that needs to happen in order to start the car remotely. Once the door is opened, you need to repeat the process outlined above before remote car starting.
We feel that this is a very easy, effective and safe way to add a remote car starter to your vehicle. Please stop in anytime for a free estimate on a remote car starter for your standard shift vehicle.
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that's pretty impressive what they have cooked up...wow. the whole idea of bypassing the neutral start switch is why i never bothered with a remote start myself...in fact i bought one and installed it only for the remote locks. all of 4 wires 
it was used and cheap so ha.
personally i think i would get annoyed by such a setup, but i really do love how someone thought out the safety aspect of it.
had a friend that swapped a manual trans into an old toyota and the old OBD1 computer didn't have much for the auto trans on it...that was all in a secondary computer for controlling the trans. so he simply bypassed the neutral start in the ECU by jumpering it. then one day he forgot to hit the clutch when starting the car in the garage. the car ended up smashed into the garage wall.
it was used and cheap so ha.personally i think i would get annoyed by such a setup, but i really do love how someone thought out the safety aspect of it.
had a friend that swapped a manual trans into an old toyota and the old OBD1 computer didn't have much for the auto trans on it...that was all in a secondary computer for controlling the trans. so he simply bypassed the neutral start in the ECU by jumpering it. then one day he forgot to hit the clutch when starting the car in the garage. the car ended up smashed into the garage wall.
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I had a remote start installed on my manual 2000 civic, works awesome., to arm it,you must be out of gear,pull the e brake on, then release the clutch slowely and its armed, i will not start if those conditions change. Great for when car is frozen up in the winter mornings.