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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:32 AM
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I dont like the really big heavy and clunky sub boxes that weigh a ton and take up alot of room. At the same time, I dont like the small little bass tubes that dont sound that great. So is there any middle ground? I would like to add a 10 or 12" sub, but dont want to add a ton of amps or a big box. So whats a person to do in this situation? Do things like this work out in these predicaments?

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_108BASSLIN/In...p=114&avf=N



From what I can tell, it only weighs around 20 pounds. Im sure this sounds much better than a bass tube but how much better is the question? Im not looking to win any sound offs but I would like as much bass as possible without adding alot of weight to the car.


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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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MOST of those subs suck

my little 8" sub is decent (oem maxima bose) but it still lacks some punch
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (faithofadragon @ Sep 13 2010, 08:39 AM)
MOST of those subs suck


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I have a 10 that can go louder than I ever turn it up. Unless you are going nuts, a 12 is probably going to be overkill.
If you lay up a fiberglass/carbon fiber box that is properly reinforced, it can be pretty light and still plenty strong. The pressures involved are really not that great. If you want to save weight elsewhere and you aren't keen on sound quality competitions, you can really save mass by going to a Class D amplifier for all channels. They can be small and light, but still pack a lot of power.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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It's not just about a class d amplifier. You want small form factor with a lot of punch and light weight, be ready to shell out a few extra bucks. Best power to size ratio IMO is Alpine top of the line amps, hands down. A custom box is your best bet, with fiberglass and carbon fiber. A close second is using 1/2 or 3/8 mdf. You have to prexdrill all holes. I use drywall screws as they have more bite with a course thread. Liquid nails the hell out of all the joints, and you should be good. 1 quality 10 will sound like 2 cheap 12@ imo. Again, I'd recommend alpine type R subs.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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or you can get a proper size amp and sub

and add a CAI to counter the effects of weight

just a thought
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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In order to move alot of air, you need alot of airspace. You can always cut a hole in your rear deck and use the trunk for a giant speaker box. It is called a freeair setup and tends to be the furthest traveling sound of all speaker box setups. It is also the most minimalist.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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QUOTE (Stocker @ Sep 13 2010, 11:29 AM)
Unless you are going nuts, a 12 is probably going to be overkill.


Good thing I have 2... I like my overkill!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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i have four 10s on the way pirate.gif pirate.gif
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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What DTN is talking about is also refered to as an infinite baffle. If thats the route you want to go, I'd consider using the rear wheel wells and replacing the 6x9's with some 6.5 subs. I have a pair in that area. They are elemental designs 6.5" subs and they do a decent job. As far as quality of sound, that would be the poorest IMO. If it where me, I've always wanted to convert the rear hatch cover into a small sub box for two or three of those 6.5" subs. You'd have your whole trunk and the setup would have to be in fiberglass, which would make the setup pretty light.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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subs no bigger than 8's in a small enclosure. preferrably FG used on the sub box.

single amp with built in crossovers able to run in 4 to 5 channel mode
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