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Problem When Filling Up Gas

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nex @ Oct 30 2007, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>dude, thats a chick. i know, hard to believe she likes all this but hey, to each his own... or her own. lol</div>
^^irrelevant and off topic but thanks

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mad-Machine @ Oct 30 2007, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>just out of curiosity, do you always go to the same station for gas?</div>
nope i fill up at lots of different ones and at each one the problem still is the sme...but i called the dealer (since this is an emissions problem) and they have to validate it... about $230 total
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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there is a rollover valve at the base of the filler neck that goes in to the tank you migh what to check that out..
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Okay, the part numbers and prices (prices may vary from dealer to dealer, I can't explain why) are as follows:

Charcoal canister
31420-29980
$110.83

Canister Close Valve
31430-29200
$44.76

This should be all you need, but of course, you can always try to find one in the junk yard. All charcoal canisters are not the same though, so make sure to pull one off the same year as your car. Just remember you run the risk of pulling a bad one being as it's used.

Good luck!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Isn't this charcoal canister the same thing that us Rev A guys completely removed? Just T all the tubes together, and keep the solenoid there so you don't get a CEL.

Total cost: < $15 for barbs/T's/fittings/hose
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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^^^^

Yup. Hey, if it works, go for it. Cheaper that way. I have no idea how it affects emissions though.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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I am interested how this affects emissions as well.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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^^ It only affects the ambient emissions the cars make (if that's the technical term for it)

Cars make emissions in many different ways, and one of them happens to be from the gas tank itself. In the older days, manufacturers put vents on gas tanks that allowed for expansion and contraction due to heat, but fuel vapor is unburned hydrocarbons, and it is toxic to the environment. The way to get rid of this is with an evaporative emissions system, which (basically) sucks up the fuel vapors into the charcoal canister, and when the ecu determines it's time to burn them, it vents the tank to manifold vacuum, which sucks the vapors from the canister to be burned in the engine.

Other "ambient emissions" cars make include toxins from such things as plastics, rubber from tires, etc.
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