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03-10-2014, 01:38 PM
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ab-b Remember when C-segment cars were supposed to be hot stuff? Yeah, about that...
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What do the Dodge Dart, Ford Focus, Honda Civic, Mazda3, Subaru Impreza, Toyota Corolla and Volkswagen Jetta all have in common? Well, actually, lots. They are all four-door sedans that fall into the so-called C-segment, and they are all trending downward in sales. This data comes courtesy of Wards Auto, and, while not all such vehicles are down - the Hyunai Elantra has been trending upward - the deficit reportedly rings in at six-percent overall for the segment.
Where are all those compact sedan buyers going? To compact SUVs, at least in part. Wards cites data showing that sales of small SUVs and crossovers are up big over the last several months. Vehicles like the Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4 and Mazda CX-5 are all showing sales increases as buyers shift from sedans to utility vehicles, says Wards.
Still, it's way too early for automakers to give up on C-segment sedans. Though down, sales of popular models like the Civic and Corolla are good enough to put them well into the top 10 sales chart (in ninth and sixth place, respectively).Remember when C-segment cars were supposed to be hot stuff? Yeah, about that... originally appeared on Autoblog on Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:30:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.
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What do the Dodge Dart, Ford Focus, Honda Civic, Mazda3, Subaru Impreza, Toyota Corolla and Volkswagen Jetta all have in common? Well, actually, lots. They are all four-door sedans that fall into the so-called C-segment, and they are all trending downward in sales. This data comes courtesy of Wards Auto, and, while not all such vehicles are down - the Hyunai Elantra has been trending upward - the deficit reportedly rings in at six-percent overall for the segment.
Where are all those compact sedan buyers going? To compact SUVs, at least in part. Wards cites data showing that sales of small SUVs and crossovers are up big over the last several months. Vehicles like the Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4 and Mazda CX-5 are all showing sales increases as buyers shift from sedans to utility vehicles, says Wards.
Still, it's way too early for automakers to give up on C-segment sedans. Though down, sales of popular models like the Civic and Corolla are good enough to put them well into the top 10 sales chart (in ninth and sixth place, respectively).Remember when C-segment cars were supposed to be hot stuff? Yeah, about that... originally appeared on Autoblog on Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:30:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.
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Where are all those compact sedan buyers going? To compact SUVs, at least in part. Wards cites data showing that sales of small SUVs and crossovers are up big over the last several months. Vehicles like the Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4 and Mazda CX-5 are all showing sales increases as buyers shift from sedans to utility vehicles
LOL! But there is plenty of room in a smaller 4 door car!? Right guys?
EDIT- Wheels, all SUV's are not Suzuki Samurai's.
There is little/no worry of an SUV rolling over.
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-cx-5 is just a mazda3 hatch that's slightly more prone to tipping over
-rav4 is just a corolla wagon that's slightly more prone to tipping over
-cr-v is just a civic wagon that's slightly more prone to tipping over
-being higher off the ground doesn't make the interior a tardis
-fatal rollovers are mainly why SUVs are still less safe than actual cars
-rav4 is just a corolla wagon that's slightly more prone to tipping over
-cr-v is just a civic wagon that's slightly more prone to tipping over
-being higher off the ground doesn't make the interior a tardis
-fatal rollovers are mainly why SUVs are still less safe than actual cars
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Good article-
http://www.cars.com/go/crp/buyingGui...ories&referer=
It seems SUV's are safer than cars. :biggrin:
I think this say's it best-
If you think your SUV handles/drives like a Corvette, and try to drive it like one, you will get in trouble. When that is the case, it has nothing to do with the vehicle and everything to do with the driver.
http://www.cars.com/go/crp/buyingGui...ories&referer=
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety reported in June 2011 that SUVs (including crossovers) are now safer than cars, even when comparing vehicles of similar weight. Real-world fatality data for 2005-2008 models reveal 28 driver deaths per million registered SUVs. There were 56 car driver deaths and 52 pickup driver deaths per million for the same period. Minivans were the safest with 25 driver deaths per million registered vehicles.
There's more to it, though. Automakers have changed SUV design markedly, lowering the center of gravity and making SUVs inherently more stable. As the SUV/crossover market has exploded, it's come mainly from car-based models -- and quite a few vehicles that are little more than cars in SUV guise. As a whole, this approach is more stable than the old body-on-frame truck-based design.
I think this say's it best-
A driver who takes a freeway off-ramp at 50 mph in a sports car might continue unscathed. One who does the same in a family sedan might slide off into the weeds or something less forgiving. One who tries it in an SUV is more likely to roll over.
If you think your SUV handles/drives like a Corvette, and try to drive it like one, you will get in trouble. When that is the case, it has nothing to do with the vehicle and everything to do with the driver.
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Went to fact check this-
I got surprised myself. The figures from australian actual crash data from 1985ish to 2010:
Crashworthiness: how safe the vehicle is for occupants, expressed as a % chance of getting messed up in an average crash
total average------3.64
medium SUV---------2.72
large SUV----------2.77
ute----------------3.37
large--------------3.49
compact SUV--------3.53
medium-------------3.73
van----------------3.88
minivan------------3.98
small--------------4.29
light--------------5.17
Aggressivity: How likely the vehicle is to mess other road users up, expressed as a % chance of other road users getting messed up in an average crash.
total average------3.60
light--------------2.35
small--------------2.63
medium-------------3.05
compact SUV--------3.23
large--------------3.46
minivan------------3.87
medium SUV---------4.22
ute----------------4.22
van----------------4.67
large SUV----------5.21
Overall Index: How dangerous the vehicle is, accounting for both of these factors. % chance of vehicle creating corpses in an average crash.
total average----3.65
medium SUV-------3.27
compact SUV------3.42
large------------3.49
medium-----------3.49
small------------3.64
ute--------------3.65
large SUV--------3.71
minivan----------3.81
van--------------4.01
light------------4.05
My misconception has stemmed from comparing individual vehicles to one another, instead of comparing overall segment statistics. You learn something new every day.
