Engine Swaps
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Engine Swaps
I curious if anyone has done any engine swaps?
The VW's have lots of people that swap their 1.8L 8v to the 2.0 16v or
4 cylinder to the VR6, even a Rabbit can put a VR6 into it.
Has anyone scraped their 1.8 16v tibby for the 2.0L 16v? Maybe their 2.0L 16v for the Sonata's V6?
The VW's have lots of people that swap their 1.8L 8v to the 2.0 16v or
4 cylinder to the VR6, even a Rabbit can put a VR6 into it.
Has anyone scraped their 1.8 16v tibby for the 2.0L 16v? Maybe their 2.0L 16v for the Sonata's V6?
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No real benifit for a 1.8 to 2.0 swap. It would be cheaper to mod the 1.8. Now I would be intrested in seeing someone swapping the 2.4LTR 4cyl in place of the 1.8 or 2.0. The V6 would only fit with extensive structural changes. eek.gif
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The added weight of the 6-cyl engine counteracts any performance gains. And, you also use up any room in the engine bay for other modifications.
For the money, installation time, and debugging hassle, you might as well go for a turbo kit. You'd get better gains from it.
For the money, installation time, and debugging hassle, you might as well go for a turbo kit. You'd get better gains from it.
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Actually, a swap up to the 2.0L may give you more options overall than leaving it at the 1.8L...
The BETA 2.0L motor is by far the strongest motor Hyundai builds. The 2.4L i4 and the 2.7L V6 motors are both very weak in comparison -- thinner rods, weaker pistons, weaker crankshaft, non-girdled main caps, thinner cylinder walls, et al.
People make god-awful amounts of power on the 2.0L motor with a rod and piston upgrade; more power than the transmission and even the chassis can fully deal with. Leave the 2.4L and 2.7L motors alone and aim for the 2.0L motor instead.
You do know that, in Korea where the Sonatas come only with the 2.4L motor (no V6's) they swap the 2.4's for a 2.0L if they want to modify the car for power. Displacement is only as good as the rest of the motor...
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The BETA 2.0L motor is by far the strongest motor Hyundai builds. The 2.4L i4 and the 2.7L V6 motors are both very weak in comparison -- thinner rods, weaker pistons, weaker crankshaft, non-girdled main caps, thinner cylinder walls, et al.
People make god-awful amounts of power on the 2.0L motor with a rod and piston upgrade; more power than the transmission and even the chassis can fully deal with. Leave the 2.4L and 2.7L motors alone and aim for the 2.0L motor instead.
You do know that, in Korea where the Sonatas come only with the 2.4L motor (no V6's) they swap the 2.4's for a 2.0L if they want to modify the car for power. Displacement is only as good as the rest of the motor...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Red:
You do know that, in Korea where the Sonatas come only with the 2.4L motor (no V6's) they swap the 2.4's for a 2.0L if they want to modify the car for power.</div>
Now THAT is some intersting trivia right there.
You do know that, in Korea where the Sonatas come only with the 2.4L motor (no V6's) they swap the 2.4's for a 2.0L if they want to modify the car for power.</div>
Now THAT is some intersting trivia right there.
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I swapped my 1.6ltr beta and put the 2.0ltr one and i am running now easily 265hp!!!
My mechanic can make my tibby produce 350hp only by pressure regulation
Not bad what do you think?
Furthermore you should know that i am running on 0.6bar(265hp)
The swap of the engine is very very easy.Its only one day job.
The easiest thing in my country is that we can make excellent tuning of our ECU´s.Thats why even most of the 1.6ltrs tibbies produce 180hp(at the wheels).And this happens with a T25 Garett also at the same pressure.
In my opinion Alpine sucks.Its not right to buy a turbo kit and have a gain under 200hp!!!Thats outrageous guys.
With the money that you paid in my country they fit the turbo,tune it and deliver it to you with dynotest and a guarantee of 1year.
So its better to take an ECU of a European Coupe(Tiburon)and tune it at your needs.
Finally one more thing:If you exceed the amount of 180hp(at the wheels)in a small period of time you will have problem with your transmission.After 180hp they tend to give up.So try to fix that first.I know all these.Note that i have blown my motor once and killed the gear system also.
Thats my opinion guys,i hope you respect it,i am not offensive but i believe its a pity for all you to pay so much money for the best mod(turbo)and not gain what you have paid for sad.gif
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I swapped my 1.6ltr beta and put the 2.0ltr one and i am running now easily 265hp!!!
My mechanic can make my tibby produce 350hp only by pressure regulation
Not bad what do you think?
Furthermore you should know that i am running on 0.6bar(265hp)
The swap of the engine is very very easy.Its only one day job.
The easiest thing in my country is that we can make excellent tuning of our ECU´s.Thats why even most of the 1.6ltrs tibbies produce 180hp(at the wheels).And this happens with a T25 Garett also at the same pressure.
In my opinion Alpine sucks.Its not right to buy a turbo kit and have a gain under 200hp!!!Thats outrageous guys.
With the money that you paid in my country they fit the turbo,tune it and deliver it to you with dynotest and a guarantee of 1year.
So its better to take an ECU of a European Coupe(Tiburon)and tune it at your needs.
Finally one more thing:If you exceed the amount of 180hp(at the wheels)in a small period of time you will have problem with your transmission.After 180hp they tend to give up.So try to fix that first.I know all these.Note that i have blown my motor once and killed the gear system also.
Thats my opinion guys,i hope you respect it,i am not offensive but i believe its a pity for all you to pay so much money for the best mod(turbo)and not gain what you have paid for sad.gif
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I wasn't aware that your ecu will work with our cars here in the States. Doesn't your car have a MAF instead of the MAP sensor. Also U.S. cars are required to have OBD II and I don't think yours does. From what I read the switch would be all but impossible. It is the same for cars that are built strictly for the Japan market. The can get insane power because they have fewer "tunning" issues from the beginning.
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I am not sure about that maybe you are right though.Its better to consult Random about that.I think in a previous post Random had said that its not possible,but my mechanic told me that it could be done,either you have a MAP or MAF sensor.In addition i dont know about your regulations in US.
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I am not sure about that maybe you are right though.Its better to consult Random about that.I think in a previous post Random had said that its not possible,but my mechanic told me that it could be done,either you have a MAP or MAF sensor.In addition i dont know about your regulations in US.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Red:
People make god-awful amounts of power on the 2.0L motor with a rod and piston upgrade; more power than the transmission and even the chassis can fully deal with. -Red-</div>
how much horse power can I gain with new rod and pistons upgrade,
where do i get those at?
Thanks,
People make god-awful amounts of power on the 2.0L motor with a rod and piston upgrade; more power than the transmission and even the chassis can fully deal with. -Red-</div>
how much horse power can I gain with new rod and pistons upgrade,
where do i get those at?
Thanks,