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Jaws99 07-30-2001 01:56 PM

Random help please!!!!!!!!!
 
Random I have afew questions for you. I went out today and bought a gauge pod, oil pressure gauge, volt gauge and a chilton manual and I plan on installing them tommorrow but I need alittle help. In the manual it says that on my 99 tib the oil pressure sending unit isby the flywheel first of all I'm not that good when it comes to this so where is the flywheel the picture they show is terrible it doesn't show it being by example the radiator or battery or anything I'm lost, second what should the pressure be for my engine so when I hook it up I know it's right, third if I put the sending unit in can I connect the factory wire to it so I will still have the silly little oil light come on if there is problems (secondary warning) and so I don't screw up any of the settings that might be connected to the unit and last but not least the connector comes with two NPT (what the hell is an NPT) 1/8 and a 1/4 which one of these will fit. Thank you in advance for your help I really need it.

Random 07-30-2001 05:17 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
Random I have afew questions for you. I went out today and bought a gauge pod, oil pressure gauge, volt gauge and a chilton manual and I plan on installing them tommorrow but I need alittle help..</div>Cool...Good luck!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
In the manual it says that on my 99 tib the oil pressure sending unit is by the flywheel first of all I'm not that good when it comes to this so where is the flywheel the picture they show is terrible it doesn't show it being by example the radiator or battery or anything I'm lost, </div>
http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/iindex.a...id=12494#_12494

This is the best photo I can find for it. But that location is not right.
http://www.hmaservice.com/xml/graphics/v5/v5em104b.gif

If I am not mistaken, that is just an "idiot" sensor. It will not work with your gauge. You will need an oil pressure sending sensor.

I found some threads at the old Fxtreme to help you out. http://www.fxtreme.org/Ultimate/NonCGI/For...TML/000319.html
http://www.fxtreme.org/Ultimate/NonCGI/For...TML/000747.html


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
second what should the pressure be for my engine so when I hook it up I know it's right,</div>Read those threads I posted, it has bretton's and bry's results (75 to 100 PSI)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
third if I put the sending unit in can I connect the factory wire to it so I will still have the silly little oil light come on if there is problems (secondary warning) and so I don't screw up any of the settings that might be connected to the unit </div>

Since you have to add a sensor, you should not hork anything up.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
and last but not least the connector comes with two NPT (what the hell is an NPT) 1/8 and a 1/4 which one of these will fit. Thank you in advance for your help I really need it.</div>

The NPT is the connector for the sensor. Since you don't have the sensor...you have nothing to connect it to!

Bry had photos posted of his install. I'm still trying to root them out.

[ July 31, 2001: Message edited by: Random ]

Random 07-30-2001 05:29 PM

http://b.whaite.com/car/enginebay1.jpg

Here you can see it as the "tube" going vertical to the right of the engine block/head/valve cover.

Notice the T-Fitting there? That is the stock sensor. As you can see, hyundai Left something to be desired with the location...

Here is a photo without it
http://b.whaite.com/car/brace-filter1.jpg

[ July 31, 2001: Message edited by: Random ]

Lt. Roasta Botch 07-31-2001 12:48 AM

how about putting your sensor above your oil filter? i've installed one there before on my truck and i believe the pressure reading was reliable.

Jaws99 07-31-2001 02:12 AM

Random I do have the sending unit to go in the factory hole. So if I disconnect the factory unit and do not hook the wire back up this will cause no problem with the electronics or controls of the car? Thanks for all the help smile.gif

Random 07-31-2001 03:41 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
Random I do have the sending unit to go in the factory hole. So if I disconnect the factory unit and do not hook the wire back up this will cause no problem with the electronics or controls of the car? Thanks for all the help smile.gif</div>

To keep the stock sensor you need to do a "T" fitting like bry did. One side goes to the Gauge sensor, the other to the stock sensor.

Jaws99 07-31-2001 04:48 AM

Does it make a difference in getting a T if my sending unit is electrical can't I just tap into the wires. Second the picture you showed me if I'm correct I found where it goes if your looking across the engine from the driver side it is to the left of the coil pack and is the first of 2 connections under the black of the valve cover and it has a big brass bolt.

Random 07-31-2001 05:39 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Jaws99:
Does it make a difference in getting a T if my sending unit is electrical can't I just tap into the wires.</div>

It is just an "on/off" switch, it does not return a variable signal needed for pressure.

Jaws99 07-31-2001 12:34 PM

Ok last question. If I take out the factory pressure sending unit and put the new electrical one in that goes with the gauge will anything happen if I leave the factory wiring disconnected? Will the oil light come on, will my car act funny etc... and if so what can I do to prevent it eventhough I think just the oil light will come on just like running on empty the light will come on but the car will run fine until it runs out of gas. Oh and I do have one more are you sure that is where the sensor is? Reason being if you look at the front bottom of the block right side of the exhaust manifold there looks to be a sensor that looks just like the one that comes with the gauge if not what is it. Thanks again Random

Random 07-31-2001 06:33 PM

I did not know your gauge came with a sensor. I would try the wire splice game then.

Try the stock sender. If you do not get a pressure reading or get a wacky one. Replace the stock sender with the one that came with your gauge. Then see if that returns good PSI readings. then re-attach the stock wiring to the new sender.


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