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FDA slams Caffeine + Alcohol

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Old 11-17-2010, 12:59 PM
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Default FDA slams Caffeine + Alcohol

Four Loko has decided to remove caffeine, guarana, and taurine from it's recipe.



I guess Four Loko was similar to a can full of Jager Bombs



http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/17...nks/index.html



Washington (CNN) -- The U.S. Food and Drug Administration told the manufacturers of seven caffeinated alcoholic beverages Wednesday that their drinks are a "public health concern" and can't stay on the market in their current form.



The move follows a year-long review by the FDA, which gave the companies 15 days to either reformulate their products or face possible seizure under federal law, said Dr. Joshua Sharfstein, the agency's principal deputy commissioner. Experts have said the caffeine used in the beverages can mask the effects of alcohol, leaving drinkers unaware of how intoxicated they are.



"FDA does not find support for the claim that the addition of caffeine to these alcoholic beverages is 'generally recognized as safe,' which is the legal standard," Sharfstein told reporters. "To the contrary, there is evidence that the combinations of caffeine and alcohol in these products pose a public health concern."



One of the companies that received warning letters was Phusion Projects, of Chicago, Illinois, which makes Four Loko -- a drink nicknamed "blackout in a can" by some users. The company announced Tuesday that it was dropping caffeine and two other ingredients, guarana and taurine, from Four Loko ahead of the FDA's expected action.



The other companies are San Diego, California-based United Brands, which manufactures the Joose and Max brands; Portland, Oregon's Charge Beverages Corp., which sells Core High Gravity HG, Core High Gravity HG Orange, and Lemon Lime Core Spiked; and New Century Brewing of Boston, Massachusetts, which makes Moonshot.



There was no immediate response to the announcement from those firms. United Brands said Tuesday that it would review any new FDA guidelines, but noted it was unaware "of a single incident of injury or other harm associated with its products."



The FDA has no authority to ban the products outright. But Sharfstein said the review is still going on "and may lead to action against other, similar products." The states of New York, Washington, Utah, Michigan and Oklahoma already have taken steps to remove similar drinks from store shelves.



The FDA began its review in November 2009, after complaints from officials in several states. The controversy exploded in October, when nine underage students at Central Washington University were hospitalized after drinking Four Loko, both on its own and mixed with other drinks, police reported.



Critics say drinks like Four Loko mix as much as three cups of coffee with three cans of beer and are designed to appeal to younger consumers accustomed to consuming high-caffeine energy drinks. A 23.5-ounce can of Four Loko contains either 6 or 12 percent alcohol by volume, depending on state regulations.



Phusion has compared Four Loko to popular drinks like rum and cola or Irish coffee, but said it was changing its formula in the face of "a difficult and politically-charged regulatory environment."



"By taking this action today, we are again demonstrating leadership, cooperation and responsible corporate citizenship," the statement said.



Dr. Orly Avitzur, medical adviser to Consumer Reports magazine, said Phusion's announcement addresses "the worst of the problem," but leaves behind "a very high-alcohol beer."



"This is only a partial solution," Avitzur said.



Combining large amounts of caffeine and alcohol produces "a wide-awake drunk," said Dr. Mary Claire O'Brien, an associate professor of emergency medicine at Wake Forest University's medical school. But since caffeine's effect wears off faster than alcohol's, she said, drinkers are left with "much more alcohol than he would have been able to tolerate -- and that leads to blackouts."



"If you're going to drink caffeine, drink it responsibly. If your going to drink alcohol, drink it responsibly," said O'Brien, who has studied the drinks extensively. "But mixing them is dangerous, because you might not know when you've had too much to drink."
Old 11-17-2010, 01:09 PM
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meh no big deal. Just makes it a little more expensive to get the same effect. Red monster and vodka is a great mix. Four locos appeal was the cost effectiveness.
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Yeah, but the problem is teenagers drinking themselves into the hospital with one drink.
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people do that with beer. I see the risk, uppers + downers... but it's just jager bombs in a can.
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Keep it and let the people drink! Natural selection can only work out in our favor on this one!
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It is dangerous though. People are having a hard time with dehyration as there main problem I would think. Stims and depressants is a brutal mix for the wrong people. But I do like me some vodkarockstars.
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Originally Posted by majik
I see the risk, uppers + downers... but it's just jager bombs in a can.
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People at work have been freaking out about Four for years now and I have the same reaction. Seriously, buy a bottle of Alpenwolfe and some cheap energy drink, it's actually less in the long run. And yes, i catch that people were drinking themselves into the grave, but that's because they abused the stuff. Just another case of bureaucrats jumping on the bandwagon to save dumb people from themselves. Just let the gene pool take care of itself people!
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It's banned here. Never drank the stuff until it was banned. Now my fridge is stocked with it because the banned stuff is popular at parties.



I don't feel sorry for idiots that don't know how to control themselves around alcohol. Drinking can be dangerous. This is no different.




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