Forget any and all biases about making Tiburons fast. My friend Tom, founder of Advanced Products Engineering (APE) knows that to go fast, you gotta have the best parts. If you want the best parts, you cant just bolt on off the shelf products. You have to BUILD your parts, track test them, and hope you don't break too many other parts along the way. Now because of his hard work, you guys can purchase traction bars, shifter bushings, fuel rail accessories, and nitrous, and the product engineering is pushing forward with more race proven parts to come!

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So to flip this whole thing on all of you, I'll let the cat outta the bag. How the hell did Tom run an 11.1 second pass? Not with a manual shifter, thats for sure. Thats right, this car is an automatic. Its funny, I've personally yanked an auto and swapped in a 5 Speed on my race car, but Tom did the opposite. He took out his 5 speed, and swapped in an auto. Why? Because to have this much power, you will go through axles like tooth pics. APE has taken this to a whole new level. He's not running passes at the strip so he can gloat about it, he's doing it because nobody else has. The last Tiburon to get recognition for being in the 10's has to use TWO FRIGGIN ENGINES. Thats not much more than a myth of a car, and certainly its had enough custom fabbing done to pay for a car that'll run 10s on one engine alone, lol. But it made cool burnouts!!!

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Anyway, the APE car is going to be breaking into the 10's ANYTIME NOW. We're strapping on one of my 1200 dollar Carbon Fiber Hatches, free of charge, fully sponsored, as well as a new Carbon Fiber hood, and between those two pieces, we hope to drop a good 100 lbs. You think that might shave off 1/10 of a second? I really hope so smile.gif

So check out the pics, and check out the 15MB video, so you can start telling you buddies that Hyundai's can run 10's too!!!

APE's 11.1 second Pass Video (15MB)


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So do you think your Manual tranny could keep up? LOL.

After taking my years off my life, for it just to load joke.gif ...

Damn that car is quick...

Can't wait to see the video of when it breaks the 10's fing02.gif

Very nice car, but correct me if I'm wrong, that is not all motor. Direct port injection? What kind of shot is he running on it?

Also that's not any regular auto tranny LOL. cool.gif

Yah i love how people try to say that autos are faster than manuals just because on sub 10 second cars they run autos.

What they dont get is that its a built racing automatic transmission, not a stock auto. Stock auto couldnt hold anywhere near that much power, not to mention they shift slow as hell.

And unless you got 2-3grand to shell out for a racing auto transmission, your better off going with a stick.

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Friggin nice car. And all motor means N/A, no nitrous, s/c, or turbo. so no that isnt all motor lol.

Gee i couldnt tell, since im a noob, but that wasnt with the GT V6 eh? hahahaha

Real power comes from the beta.

Any body got a dyno?

I saw this car today.

It's a BETA motor. With a friggin' AUTOMATIC. haha

Tom said that basically the Manual Tranny flexes too much so he cannot get it to the next gear when he's racing. So the Auto does the job much better.

Yes, it was built up for racing, but good god, that thing is fast.

It's doing something like 460 HP with the Turbo System alone. I didn't ask what he gets when he hits the nitrous.

The thing is, he has all the stock body still on the car. If he lightened it up, I'm sure he'd hit the 10's no problem. But he's still using the heavy ass stock Hood, stock Hatch, stock doors, etc. The car could loose a hundred pounds yet.

that's SICK man. way to show 'em! hellz yeah that's going to be awesome when it breaks the 10's. man you have a lot to look forward to. GK's are nice cars. nicer than any mustang, celica, eclipse any whatever.

don't get any ideas though, fuel prices are said to be rising.

well if you need to move this fast, gas prices are way higher. 116 octane aint cheap wink1.gif

I talked to him about the manual trannies. But he never bothered to look into building up the manual tranny, which you could do. Maybe he didn't know about the parts. But it would cost far less than building up an auto tranny. He only talked about how his BetaII tranny would shift too slow, which can be fixed.
As for them snapping axles. Stage 4 axles can be bought for $600 from the driveshaftshop.com
Or they can be fabricated with beefier parts from other cars that put out far more horsepower.

/\ exactly, people see that an auto is being used and they say "huh, auto's must be better"

He most likely didnt think about building the manual, and maybe he was too scared of missing a shift and embarrassing himself haha.

Not to take away from he car tho, grade A stuff. Now if bryan would just get to the damn track with that new setup we could see what a similar tib with stick (and about 400lbs lighter) can do.

dont be an ass^ Anyone who can argue that Tom hasn't thought out how to build this tiburon is just talking crap. I'm sure his method of thinking wasn't just, "Uhh?" anything. The guy did testing, built turbo kits to sell, and pushed the car to 175 whp N/A before he pulled the 5 speed tranny and started building up an auto. Nobody said this was a stock auto, nor has anyone said they thought it was. This car is leaps and bounds ahead of anything out there, not just in results, but in finely monitored adjustments, consistent progress, and damn, its like a friggin Jet inside that car with all the electronics used to know exactly what the car is doing, when, how, and why.

If the 5 speed could have handled all of this, he'd be rockin it right now, but try to have some respect for doing what it takes to get the car to even pull sub 12's.

Now just imagine a built manual tranny on a RD1 pushing the same power but 100's of lbs. lighter. That's what I want to see, but after 4+ years of tuning RDs, I've not seen hardly any progress on drag racing. 12's are damn quick though for any hyundai, and I've been impressed by anything close to that.

^^Ok, you're taking it wrong. We didn't say he doesn't know what he's doing. We just said that "he didn't even bother trying to build up the 5 speed". He doesn't know what he's never tried.

<u>I SPOKE to him about it all over the phone.</u> Don't you remember the traction bar post? I believe it was before you met him?

He told me that the newer trannies shift slower than the old ones. Which I already knew because I had an 01 Tib tran and now an 02 elantra. And I also confirmed it with Jaws021.

I asked him if he modified it, and nope, he didn't bother.

He never said that it BROKE, or that "it couldn't keep up". He simply said it shifted slower which he wasn't comfortable with. There are ways to fix that. He just didn't bother trying.

And the reason why we're getting all defensive about it is because you challenged our 5 speeds in your first post and thereafter. You make it seem like just because APE swapped to an auto, we should do the same because they're shitty. Sorry, but APE never proved that to us.

whoa whoa man your making yourself into an ass man.

I NEVER NEVER questioned his tib. I was just making sure people didnt jump on the "see auto's are better" bandwagon.

You took my post completely wrong man. I tried to make it very clear i had ALOT of respect for it. let me quote what i said before

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not to take away from he car tho, grade A stuff.</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Friggin nice car.</div>

Dont jump to conclusions because im defending the 5-speed.

Im very impressed cant wait to see what it will top out at after the weight reduction.

Ok guys, you got me. Its ok to be an ass every once in a while right? hehe. I see the value in your posts now, and dont get me wrong, I think its just great to have new innovative help to the community. I think more than anything, this should push me to get Tom working on my 5 speed tranny to see what crazy things he can come up with for that. I'm actually dropping off my black car there in the next hour.

But yeah, my bad, I didn't mean to jump on anyone. My whole thing was respect, but its not like anyone was talkin trash, more just making sure people didn't take this new info the wrong way and send a bunch of emails asking if they should swap to an auto, lol. You guys nipped it in the bud, which is good. So thanks fellas smile.gif

Meanwhile, for the sake of not continuing to look like a flat out ass hat, I'll mod my post above in a few hours after I'm sure you guys got my humble apology wink1.gif

...fvckers

...make me look dumb

...how come Chris cant be right for once

...thats it, I'm swapping to auto joke.gif

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btw chris can you get us a basic spec sheet on the car? im not askin for "secrets" im just sayin like
hes runnin 25psi on so and sos turbo blah blah blah with this setup for suspension...

maybe some pics that werent taken with a camera phone wink1.gif



offtopic.gif chris did you get my pm?

Thats a incredible car that your mate has there Chris. Very nice.

PSC/Axis GK Drag car that is supposed to land in the mid 9's
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i got to admit, the first 5 seconds of that video gave me a chub...

what, when you saw Toms big helmet... fag.

LOL, j/k

mang...
'least I dun make love to pumpkins...

Oooooooo
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You pumpkin hatin myspace whore, hahaha.

Chris, do you think you could get a dyno sheet from these guys? I'd like to put it up in the dyno thread.
Also a scan of the timeslip for record.

I'll try to get a dyno posted up soon!

If he took out the drivetrain and dumped it into a stripped down rd1 or 2 chasis he would be running mid 10's with it, the GK chasis is to heavy and I understand the areodynamics are a little better on first and second gen tibs, either way the car is quick.

That's the beauty of running his engines in my RD1 Time Attach Tib smile.gif We should have something done by April along the lines of 350-400 whp and a full 8 point cage on a half CF car.

Any chance you can get APE's assistance on getting some RD fuel rail accessories done?

a little quick on the close button redz, but i do agree that we need past issues perfected before letting anything else progress.

Yeah, I was just selecting a batch of them. Didn't mean to close this one. Sorry.

Did some stuff get closed or what? I'll get Tom to send down some fuel rail tabs if you guys need? Or the AN fittings later if need be.

I want a nice new purdy fuel rail... fing02.gif