Has anybody ever looked into the Phantom grip limited slip conversion? If so could you tell me if its worth the money and if it is easy to install. (www.phantomgrip.com)

 

No, it's NOT easy to install. It is not as good as a TRUE LSD, but it is better than NO LSD.

I'm not 100% sure I trust the design for reliability and wear and tear on your differential. The device itself would not wear out, I'm nore worried about the wear and tear to the stock diff.

 

But just what the hell is it? I know its not an lsd, but yet it is or something like that. Can someone please elaborate?

 

it is a thing that sits in ur differential that can stop the gears from spinning i guess

 

Not quite, but close, it forces the gears to spin evenly when power is applied through the diff. To my understanding, it does nothing durring braking or coasting, but it would work durring engine brakeing.

 

Well that sounds aight to me, as long as engine braking counts as applying power.

 

I have one installed in my Turbo shark. I think it works quite well for street and road racing, the grip of the LSD increases with torque and therefore very little is felt in short radius turning. At high speed it generates a lot of steering stability and decreases every feeling of drifting at high speeds. Cornering is quite improved but with the turbo power you can still make it slip if enough output is supplied to the dif. I like the product but I do not think it is designed for draging since you can break up the grip in the dif in 1st gear quite easily, for this purpose it is better a stonger grip to force torque on both tires at take off but reducing the driveability too. You have to get used to drive a LSD in front wheel drive since you will feel the effects on your steering. Installation of this product per se is simple but you have to do a lot of mechanical work just to be able to reach the dif where this is installed.

[ November 07, 2001: Message edited by: Mario ]

 

Im new on this topic so I have a couple of basic questions:

1) Is this only for manual transmissions? Mine is auto...

2) What is the difference between a REAL LSD and the phantom grip?

3) What kind of effects can it make on a Hyundai Accent, 97 with auto transmission.

 

So is anyone still considering modifying the Quaiffe unit for a Tib?

 

Can anyone answer the questions avobe?