Individual Throttle Body
what would need to be done to the motor in order to drop this in a tib? or if anyone has before? jw if its been done and what needs to be done if you were to put it in.
http://www.real-engineering.com/shop/custo...&cat=175&page=1
http://www.real-engineering.com/shop/custo...&cat=175&page=1
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Yeah man I agree with Tanc. Word on the street is that those types of setups are tough to tune, and keep tuned. Plus the Beta doesn't enjoy NA right now.
On the other had, when tuned correctly and controlled I'm sure you would see some significant gains out of it. Give it a try, just make sure you know how she works.
On the other had, when tuned correctly and controlled I'm sure you would see some significant gains out of it. Give it a try, just make sure you know how she works.
Individual throttle bodies are great for throttle response and top end power. Unlike the stock intake with the throttle at one end of the engine, the individuals put a throttle plate only a couple of inches from the cylinder head. Open the throttle and that air goes into the cylinder RIGHT NOW.. instead of maybe having to wait a few fractions of a second as it goes from the one TB all the way down the intake manifold and then the runners to the cylinder.
It is the difference between breathing through a hose and then just using your lips. The Skyline GT-R uses individual throttle bodies with it's turbo set up.
However, I doubt they are that hard to set up. The old dual carb set ups on some four cylinders were tough to keep in sync. Not only were you dealing with throttle plate movement, but fuel flow and the idle circut. At least with individual throttle bodies you only have to worry about getting the plates in sync and keeping them that way. The computer controls fuel and everything else.
It is the difference between breathing through a hose and then just using your lips. The Skyline GT-R uses individual throttle bodies with it's turbo set up.
However, I doubt they are that hard to set up. The old dual carb set ups on some four cylinders were tough to keep in sync. Not only were you dealing with throttle plate movement, but fuel flow and the idle circut. At least with individual throttle bodies you only have to worry about getting the plates in sync and keeping them that way. The computer controls fuel and everything else.
ahhh i see
right on, thanks Mad!
Now, if he was to get that, and it was tuned up right... how much power would that give? would it be something like a turbo... or not quite that much of a gain?
right on, thanks Mad!
Now, if he was to get that, and it was tuned up right... how much power would that give? would it be something like a turbo... or not quite that much of a gain?
I was wondering how they went around the maf to install these?
An efficient turbo setup is also hard to tune wink.gif
I don't agree on the beta doesn't enjoy N/A mods. Yes, the results obtained with the basics is not very impressive but tell me that a set of cams/pistons and proper tuning won't give you good results wink.gif There is just not enough people that did it all to see. There is a very nice setup being built in my town right now, I'll post the dyno results eventually when its done....it will be impressive.
QUOTE (silvertibbs)
Yeah man I agree with Tanc. Word on the street is that those types of setups are tough to tune, and keep tuned. Plus the Beta doesn't enjoy NA right now.
An efficient turbo setup is also hard to tune wink.gif
I don't agree on the beta doesn't enjoy N/A mods. Yes, the results obtained with the basics is not very impressive but tell me that a set of cams/pistons and proper tuning won't give you good results wink.gif There is just not enough people that did it all to see. There is a very nice setup being built in my town right now, I'll post the dyno results eventually when its done....it will be impressive.
Hmmm.... With the huge price difference, the gains had better be good when compared to the AIRRAM. I'm also assuming this would work with a turbo set-up like the AIRRAM? What about the strut bar issue? Will it work with this, where it doesn't with the AIRRAM?
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I was wondering how they went around the maf to install these?
An efficient turbo setup is also hard to tune wink.gif
I don't agree on the beta doesn't enjoy N/A mods. Yes, the results obtained with the basics is not very impressive but tell me that a set of cams/pistons and proper tuning won't give you good results wink.gif There is just not enough people that did it all to see. There is a very nice setup being built in my town right now, I'll post the dyno results eventually when its done....it will be impressive.
QUOTE (silvertibbs)
Yeah man I agree with Tanc. Word on the street is that those types of setups are tough to tune, and keep tuned. Plus the Beta doesn't enjoy NA right now.
An efficient turbo setup is also hard to tune wink.gif
I don't agree on the beta doesn't enjoy N/A mods. Yes, the results obtained with the basics is not very impressive but tell me that a set of cams/pistons and proper tuning won't give you good results wink.gif There is just not enough people that did it all to see. There is a very nice setup being built in my town right now, I'll post the dyno results eventually when its done....it will be impressive.
Personnally I think it's a good idea, I only heard it's tough to tune. As for the NA mods, I hope to see a Beta put down some good numbers NA, but until I see them with a pricetag, TC>NA in respect to HP vs PRICE.
I would like to know more about this NA Beta. Like I said I'm happy for it, but it's just not cost effective right now. 02.gif


