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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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Default Has anyone ever heard of smartplugs? Tech guy answers questions personally!

Does anyone know anything about these plugs?

www.smartplugs.com
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 03:25 AM
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For the first link, it looks like they just modify your stock plugs.

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We will send you a set of the OEM specified plugs for the engine in your car modified with ILENIUM™ electrodes
I would not want this plug in my engine compartment.

For the second one, read this
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Remove all components of the previous ignition system (With engines whose ignition systems are controlled by a computer, the computer must be replaced to accommodate SmartPlug. Â Attach the SmartPlug wiring harness and timing controller (as needed).
Here is a graphical representation of the "smart plug". It is basically a diesel "glo-plug" convered for use in a normal gasoline engine. eek! eek! eek!
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 03:44 AM
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ARGGGGGGGG Can you say Pre-det issues. eek!

Oh and AHHH YEa just run SUPPER LEAN

SmartPlugs have been proven to go beyond the lean-burn limit of a standard spark ignition. Lean-burn is the ability to ignite air and fuel mixtures that contain higher amounts of air than normally used.

Lean-burning in piston engines affords a means of achieving important environmental and fuel economy objectives. When applied to lean-burn, the SmartPlug is able to overcome difficulties normally encountered by conventional spark ignition systems. These include increased power output, lower fuel consumption, extended lean-burn limits, reduced emissions, and simplified timing control. The primary drawbacks of lean burn engines are de-rated power output per unit displacement and incompatibility with oxidation/reduction catalysts used in conventional exhaust clean-up systems.

Over the last two years successful attempts have been made to combine SmartPlug design with aqueous fuel technology to capture many of the benefits of lean-burning without sacrificing power output. The aqueous fuel is a mixture of water and ethanol called Aquanol. The fuel is produced by Simplot Corporation in Caldwell, Idaho. Previous screening tests with portable electric generators, lawnmowers, rotary engines, and even diesel engines have indicated dramatic reductions in NOx and hydrocarbon emissions. Increases in thermal efficiency have also been noted. These improvements are sorely needed in small engine technology. All this without sacrificing power.
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:00 AM
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ILENIUM?

I might not be a chemistry guru. But as far as I know there isn't a element called ILENIUM. Generally you wouldn't want to use a product where they just made up a new element.

I did a search and couldn't find a compound or element close to that name. I guess I should just spraypaint my plugs black and call them deckernium. smile.gif (hehehe, NO paint and steel isn't a compound wink

Isn't ilenium a element/compound that some beleived to make up quasars or something?
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:11 AM
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ILENIUM?

I might not be a chemistry guru. But as far as I know there isn't a element called ILENIUM. Generally you wouldn't want to use a product where they just made up a new element.
I dont know about you, but I want me seom Turbonium smile.gif

remember, to advertise the turbo beetle? smile.gif
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:13 AM
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Ilenium and illenium do not exist as compounds or particles. Just a bogus name.

-Steve
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:13 AM
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oooh turbonium yeah wink hehehehehe. Tuscanium is next wink
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:38 AM
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I called Smartplug and the tech guy said that after further development they figured out that you don't have to remove the stock ECM, you just unplug your coil wires and get rid of them and your spark plugs. The ECM stays to control every thing else. After talking with him it seems like it would work and work well. They are all ready using these on gas engine aircarft, snowmobiles and personel watercraft with great success. They have all kinds of people behind them. EPA and NASA are providing money and research to help. It will also be CARB approved. They hope to have a product for autos in a 1 1/2 to 2 years. They want to sell the plugs for around $20.00 a peice.

After more info is available I'll probably end up getting some. They show a 3 to 6% increase in gas mileage and power. It might be more in 2 years.

This is a e-mail I received from www.smartplugs.com after asking how I was suppose to unplug my ECM since my car wouldn't even run like this.

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Dear Derek,

Thank you for you inquiry. You are right, the computer does control
everything. When we install this in a vehicle, the Direct Ignition Module
remains in place. This interprets the crank angle position sensor and
forwards an RPM pulse train to the main ECM. This pulse train is used to
fire the fuel injectors and interpret RPM. Everything between the Direct
Ignition Module and the former spark plugs is removed. i.e. Coils, ignition
towers, ignition leads, and spark plugs are removed. The DI module
continues to fire as if the coils were attached, but doesn't know that they
are not present. -- as we just discussed on the phone-- The rest of the
ECM functions continue to operate as they normally would. There is between
a 3-5% improvement in both fuel economy and power. The automotive product
is not yet available, but will cost approximately $20 per cylinder plus an
additional $20 for the wiring harness. Again, Thank you for your inquiry
and put in a good word for us on the chat group.

Sincerely,

Mark Cherry
(208)265-2723
www.smartplug.com
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 05:07 AM
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i kinda liking the sound of this product..hopefully they can make them wurk in autos alot sooner
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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 05:20 AM
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Guys. the glo-plug idea is NOT a good idea.

There is no way to ACCURATELY control the ignition timing. This device REMOVES ALL ABILITY TO CONTROL IGNITION TIMING.

That wire element is hot all the time (when the car is on). Anytime air/fuel enters that gloplug chamber, it will ignite. Your ECU will not be able to retard timing for pinging/detonations or advance/retard for RPM.

This is a sure fire way to ruin your engine.
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