coil packs and MSD DIS 2 ASAP
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coil packs and MSD DIS 2 ASAP
I got the MSD dis -2 ordered but need to know if the MSD coil packs have been used in anyones vehicle yet? do they really need to e a direct fit? Help on this is really needed. P.S. Would the stock coil packs hold the msd till I can get the coil packs?
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The stock coils will hold up against a MSD Dis-2 no problem.
I keep dreaming of a DIS-4 and 4 individual sblaster coils....*drool*
I keep dreaming of a DIS-4 and 4 individual sblaster coils....*drool*
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Hawaii,
Keep in mind that MSD (so far as I know) does not sell distributorless ignition coils, they only sell single coils. These are not compatible with our ignition system.
I do believe either Jacobs or Accel or someone like that *does* sell DIS coils. The difference is that DIS coils have two plug leads, whereas a "normal" coil only has one. I do believe you could retrofit a DIS4 unit and use four individual "normal" coils, but don't hold me to that wink.gif
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Keep in mind that MSD (so far as I know) does not sell distributorless ignition coils, they only sell single coils. These are not compatible with our ignition system.
I do believe either Jacobs or Accel or someone like that *does* sell DIS coils. The difference is that DIS coils have two plug leads, whereas a "normal" coil only has one. I do believe you could retrofit a DIS4 unit and use four individual "normal" coils, but don't hold me to that wink.gif
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Red, check the new MSD catalog out. They do have coil packs for the DIS-2. It is listed on the same page as the DIS-2 Programmable Unit. There web site mentions for DIS-4, but they should work with the DIS-2. A little Pricey though.
heres the links for:
The MSD DIS-2 Programmable PN MSD-6212
The DIS Racing coil PN MSD-8230
[ October 17, 2001: Message edited by: hawaiibullrider ]
heres the links for:
The MSD DIS-2 Programmable PN MSD-6212
The DIS Racing coil PN MSD-8230
[ October 17, 2001: Message edited by: hawaiibullrider ]
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Nice, I hadn't seen that yet. You would be the first person to try them for a Tiburon most likely, as I know of nobody else that has attempted it.
It may be a good idea to get the coils, if for nothing more than possible extended life. The stock coils will take an MSD fine, but the lifespan of a typical set of Hyundai coils is somewhere between 1 and 3 years it seems. That kinda sucks IMO, so perhaps the MSD set will live a bit longer.
Let us know if you purchase them, and how you like them.
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It may be a good idea to get the coils, if for nothing more than possible extended life. The stock coils will take an MSD fine, but the lifespan of a typical set of Hyundai coils is somewhere between 1 and 3 years it seems. That kinda sucks IMO, so perhaps the MSD set will live a bit longer.
Let us know if you purchase them, and how you like them.
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will do but I look at the coil and I only see 1 plug on it. These may only be for the DIS-4. Similar to the ones you mentioned for the Jacobs.
Oh also, DOes anyone know if the OBD II in the beta engine will allow for the MSD retard option?
I heard the OBD doesnt allow the retard option. DOesnt really make sense why not though. DOes the OBD actually monitor when the plugs fire r just tells them to fire? Thanks.
Oh also, DOes anyone know if the OBD II in the beta engine will allow for the MSD retard option?
I heard the OBD doesnt allow the retard option. DOesnt really make sense why not though. DOes the OBD actually monitor when the plugs fire r just tells them to fire? Thanks.
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Why are you trying to retard/advance the spark timing?
To the way that I understand things...with the stock ECU, no, you cannot really mess with the timing with the MDIS-2 (or 4)
The MDIS unit will not be able to override the ECU. The ECU tells the MDIS unit when to fire. There is no "advance" possible as it is simply a "fire now" command from the ECU. You cannot advance "now".
You could retartd the timing with the MSD unit...and yes, I'm fairly certian that the the OBD-II will complain that the spark is not happening when the ECU wants it to happen.
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To the way that I understand things...with the stock ECU, no, you cannot really mess with the timing with the MDIS-2 (or 4)
The MDIS unit will not be able to override the ECU. The ECU tells the MDIS unit when to fire. There is no "advance" possible as it is simply a "fire now" command from the ECU. You cannot advance "now".
You could retartd the timing with the MSD unit...and yes, I'm fairly certian that the the OBD-II will complain that the spark is not happening when the ECU wants it to happen.
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I was eyeballing the single outlet on the DIS coils, but I am assuming you can "group them" for waste-spark igntion (as mentioned in the DIS coil description).
The "programmable" DIS-2 unit seems a bit quirky, I would suggest simply doing the regular DIS-2. You can still retard timing (if you want) with the regular DIS-2 unit, and it will not cost so much NOR will it be quite as complicated as to need it's own external controller or software interface.
If you want to get THAT technical with your igntion, buy a new ECU wink.gif Haltech and MSD work very well together
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The "programmable" DIS-2 unit seems a bit quirky, I would suggest simply doing the regular DIS-2. You can still retard timing (if you want) with the regular DIS-2 unit, and it will not cost so much NOR will it be quite as complicated as to need it's own external controller or software interface.
If you want to get THAT technical with your igntion, buy a new ECU wink.gif Haltech and MSD work very well together
-Red-
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Red,
I am going with the regular DIS-2. It's only got the high speed retard on it. I think adjustable from 4500-6000 RPM (or something like that.
The reason why I was looking at the programmable was that it has the high speed retard and a boost/NOS retard which engages when the NOS sol. opens or when you reach a certain amount of boost.
Not going with nitros right now so I am not going to need the boost retard.
I am going with the regular DIS-2. It's only got the high speed retard on it. I think adjustable from 4500-6000 RPM (or something like that.
The reason why I was looking at the programmable was that it has the high speed retard and a boost/NOS retard which engages when the NOS sol. opens or when you reach a certain amount of boost.
Not going with nitros right now so I am not going to need the boost retard.
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I believe the regular DIS-2 unit also allows for the BTM / NTM (Boost timing module / Nos timing module) as an add-on component. These are a secondary optional component which can be added at any time, and will pull timing per what you're looking for.
Check with MSD about the availability of those parts.
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Check with MSD about the availability of those parts.
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