F1 engines aren't boosted, if I remember correctly these are 3.0 V10 engines fully builded from the most expensive parts tested toroughly. Plus engines are cooled way better and engines aren't designed to last like 200.000 km but 2 races laugh.gif

300+whp isn't useless for a FWD, it's almost pointless. You won't get off the line faster then a 200+ whp because you can't get traction. As mentioned torquesteer is overwelming and in every corner you have to be carefull not to lose traction with oversteer.

For getting on the freeway it rocks tongue.gif

 

300whp is not useless. If you want to drag, you get slicks and LSD.

When I start putting out 11-12 sec runs soon, I'd like to see hear you telling me it's useless. ugh.gif

 

i know f1 engines are not boosted.

they just put out around 900 hp, rev at 18000 rpms, and are some of the most stressed peices of metal on, and off this earth.

just showing that the use of aluminum on the delta engines is not what causes problems. its not properly designing the engine around the characteristics of the metal that are at fault.

 

I get your drift, but keep in mind the fact that delta engines aren't designed to hold that kind of power and have substantial safety marges built in.

Don't try to push a F1 engine 50hp harder because it will blow.

I'm getting your point that alu engines aren't neccesarily the problem but the choice for alu in a F1 engine is mostly (if there is any) because of the weight.

building all delta engines with good parts and like casting the alu and stuff takes way too much time/money and is not worth it.

 

there have been other similar swaps done as whats stated here

basicly someone on my site swaped a camry/avolon/es300 3.0 quad cam v6 into a 93 celica, it to uses an aluminum block and heads, the guy has ben running it fine with no problems

but thats a toyota

oh and opps

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showpost....691&postcount=1

 

Personally... in a couple of years my tib will have a delta V6. I have my reasons that I am not going into at the moment.. but I will leave this tidbit for you... I am using the v6 because a V6 is shorter from crankpulley to flywheel than an inline 4

 

the car in my sig is my friend's 03 tib gt v6 and i love how it just seems like theres just instant power

i just want to see how long his car holds up

 

Shadohh wanted to do that. Technically, it could fit under your hood, with some fabrication done with the crossmember/subframe. To be honest, you find a junked V6, transmisison, crossmember/subframe...not to mention a couple of little things (such as ECU, wiring harness, etc.) but I can see it done for about $3k-$4k, if you do the fabs yourself.

I'd go a little further and take a good look at the Santa Fe AWD drivetrain and figure out the floor pan on the Santa Fe. Cutting the floor pan won't be too much of a hassle (plenty of people who restore classic cars usually cut away the floor pan and replace it with a new sheet metal fabbed floor pan).

The beauty of the AWD is that you can get your car more 50/50 balanced. Believe it or not, the GK Tibs are more 50/50 balanced than we are (mostly because they reinforced the rear). Our chassis creaks and whatnot (but a roll cage would still make us relatively lighter and more stiffer than the GKs).

 

beta does make 1000 whp " the shop name is Axias"

delta has weak main caps

f1 engines are $300,000 EA

as for the sub-frame of the santafe, where do you think the hyundai rally team make a accent AWD thinkerg.gif you guys are smart hint..hint.

the part market here is little of none for the delta, that engines first cam to light here 5 years ago, in a soccor mom van called the traj-xg koreas first attempt at a luxery mini-van . it is a mini van made to copy the version of the XG. but get this that model used only LPG AKA.propane only.. so when the gk was released here the tunner fokes hated it for that reson.. but like every car company they wanted to keep cost down so they made it run on gas/or lpg depends on the coustomer wanted at the time of order

**Note:in korea its common to see muti-fuel rides and or propane conversion. due to the fact that gas is $ 5.35 a gallon and the 110 octane stuff i use is $6.60 a gallon..


so that is the story on the GK 2.7 v6 and that is why it is as weak as it is, but i am sure that will change soon . but the roots of the engine is that it was out of a mini-van in korea


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nope.. no awd for me.... give you another hint.. it all hinges on how well I can modify my fiat to fit a Miata drivetrain