<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bms231 @ Jul 28 2006, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>DEI is giving away 2 Radiator Relief Combo Packs that include the Radiator Cooling System FLUSH and the acclaimed Radiator Cooling Additive that can lower temps up to 30?F degrees!</div>
heh... yeah, if you have no thermostat. this is for OLD cars mang.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DrivingTibNaked @ Jul 28 2006, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>heh... yeah, if you have no thermostat. this is for OLD cars mang.</div>


ummm.... yea sure b/c we all know you know the chemical properties or have done the R&D on the product. i mean, i guess DEI just put out a product that is in the works of being picked up by walmart and autozone that doesnt work. man i dislike ignorant people who do not do the research and just say stupid comments. do some research.






here is some quick faq for you....

How does it work? The unique physical properties of DEI Radiator Relief™ provides the following benefits- the addiditve itself has a viscosity of 33 percent less than water, reducing the resistance to heat transfer. This allows the heat of combustion to move from the cylinder heads and cylinder bores into the coolant with less resistance where the encapsulated heat is released to the core tubes quicker when it reaches the radiator.






So why don't you sign up for the news letter, learn a bit more b4 opening your mouth, maybe win the product, put it in your tib, and be amazed that a product actually does what it says it will do.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DrivingTibNaked @ Jul 28 2006, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>heh... yeah, if you have no thermostat. this is for OLD cars mang.</div>


Even old cars had thermostats....they open at 139 degrees.....that is all a thermostat is good for. The opening and closing of your coolant passages, and to give you an idea if you are overheating...The ideal operating water temp for a car is typically 180 - 190 degrees. But since most cars run at around 205 - 212...this product will infect help your car run at the optimum temp.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>learn a bit more b4 opening your mouth, maybe win the product, put it in your tib, and be amazed that a product actually does what it says it will do.</div>

First: how can you say that it will lower the car's temperature by 30 degrees? Sounds like snake oil to me.
Seccond: Unless there's a problem with the car's cooling system, it won't need this. This will what, cut the duty cycle of the electrical fans?

 

Displacement my friend, and it is up to 30 degrees...it may only lower the tibbys by 15 who knows...every car is different when it comes to modifying...If you change a chemical property to something that can displace heat better, then how can it be snake oil?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bms231 @ Jul 28 2006, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How does it work? The unique physical properties of DEI Radiator Reliefâ„¢ provides the following benefits- the addiditve itself has a viscosity of 33 percent less than water, reducing the resistance to heat transfer. This allows the heat of combustion to move from the cylinder heads and cylinder bores into the coolant with less resistance where the encapsulated heat is released to the core tubes quicker when it reaches the radiator.</div>
You mean the rate heat transfer is more like metals and less like water not the viscosity??
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase...rmo/heatra.html read that
O and this too http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase...s/thrcn.html#c1

 

I can change the chemical properties by adding more water, or more coolant. That dosn't mean my car's going to get any cooler.

so basically you're saying that this is a denser more thick fluid that will put more strain on the water pump which goes bad at 60-100K miles, while saving your cooling fan?

 

what this all comes down to are two people w/o a chem degree questining a product developed by a multi million dollar company. i have never seen so many people whine about FREE stuff before in my entire life. the product works. when you run a car, take a reading, then run it again, and see ..... ooooo... the temp is almost 30 degrees lower.... hmm..... the magic temperature fairy didnt just come along and wave her wand to drop the temp. but whatever, keep trying to dispute fact, r&d, and chemical engineering.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DrivingTibNaked @ Jul 28 2006, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can change the chemical properties by adding more water, or more coolant. That dosn't mean my car's going to get any cooler.

so basically you're saying that this is a denser more thick fluid that will put more strain on the water pump which goes bad at 60-100K miles, while saving your cooling fan?</div>


you are such a special ed trying to compare adding water to something. i can spit in a cup and change the chemical makeup of it. doesn't mean it does anything. but, if i put hydrochloric acid in it then tell you to put your finger in it.... it may look the same... it may have the same base fluid..... but it sure is different. you design chemicals to do certain things. this one is designed to help dissapate heat. believe it or not, there are better disipation chemicals out there other than water. hell, if water is the best, why do we put coolant in our radiators in addition to water? hmmmmmm. are you going to try to dispute coolant now?

 

**Im not discrediting the product because I still dont know what amkes it "special".**
Just saying coolant is so the water doesnt freeze in the cold and also has a higher boiling point. Its an easy equation that you can do with some charts and a simple equation to find the delta T for boiling and freezing.

 

Yes even though it keeps water from freezing and helps dissipate heat. Ethylene glycol, diethylene glycol, or propylene glycol are added to water to help raise the boiling point. This in fact keeps your coolant from vaporizing at 212. Now, this product DEI holds different properties, it assists in the dissipation of the heat more efficiently, thus lowering the actual normal operating temp of your coolant, and assisting the engine to operate more efficiently.