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QUOTE (KayJai @ Feb 2 2006, 04:50 PM)
Why not just contact Chris @ Flyrydes and get the Eibachs?
Better IMHO.
I've driven a tib with the whitelines and I definitely like the Eibachs I have better.
Also that tib also (along with mine) had the prokit springs and struts from Eibach, only difference was the bars.
Better IMHO.
I've driven a tib with the whitelines and I definitely like the Eibachs I have better.
Also that tib also (along with mine) had the prokit springs and struts from Eibach, only difference was the bars.
Yes, please explain why would you choose the Eibach bars over the Whitelines?
I have H&R springs and Whitelines, I am very happy, but the H&R springs are MUCH firmer than the Eibachs, and maybe they match better with thicker bars. Personally, I tried the Eibach springs with OEM out of the box new shocks (it was a disaster, the car bounced a LOT) and didn't like it, had to change them for GR-2 and it was a lot more noticeable than changing shocks on OEM springs. Maybe the compromise is between the suspension parts, I would think Eibach components are more friendly to other Eibach components, the settings are probably design as a whole.
Anyway, it would be nice to know fist hand what is the different feeling on both combinations, please KayJay just type all you want about your experience.
As for contacting whiteline, when I bought my bars, they were sent to me in 10 days and with good customer service response. I think the email was jackie @ whiteline.com.au if you want to try.
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QUOTE (KayJai @ Feb 2 2006, 04:50 PM)
Why not just contact Chris @ Flyrydes and get the Eibachs?
Better IMHO.
I've driven a tib with the whitelines and I definitely like the Eibachs I have better.
Also that tib also (along with mine) had the prokit springs and struts from Eibach, only difference was the bars.
Better IMHO.
I've driven a tib with the whitelines and I definitely like the Eibachs I have better.
Also that tib also (along with mine) had the prokit springs and struts from Eibach, only difference was the bars.
Yes, please explain why would you choose the Eibach bars over the Whitelines?
I have H&R springs and Whitelines, I am very happy, but the H&R springs are MUCH firmer than the Eibachs, and maybe they match better with thicker bars. Personally, I tried the Eibach springs with OEM out of the box new shocks (it was a disaster, the car bounced a LOT) and didn't like it, had to change them for GR-2 and it was a lot more noticeable than changing shocks on OEM springs. Maybe the compromise is between the suspension parts, I would think Eibach components are more friendly to other Eibach components, the settings are probably design as a whole.
Anyway, it would be nice to know fist hand what is the different feeling on both combinations, please KayJay just type all you want about your experience.
As for contacting whiteline, when I bought my bars, they were sent to me in 10 days and with good customer service response. I think the email was jackie @ whiteline.com.au if you want to try.
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Well, with most things on my car these days, money is no object even if it takes another month to save up. I just hate buying things that aren't "the best" and wishing I had waited to save up for the better one.
So if everyone feels that the Whitelines are better, then I'll go with those. Especially with the adjustability. I really don't think that the Whitelines end up being too much more.
Zman, you dont think that i should contact them first do you? Can I not just go ahead and order the bar from the site right now?
So if everyone feels that the Whitelines are better, then I'll go with those. Especially with the adjustability. I really don't think that the Whitelines end up being too much more.
Zman, you dont think that i should contact them first do you? Can I not just go ahead and order the bar from the site right now?
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Well, with most things on my car these days, money is no object even if it takes another month to save up. I just hate buying things that aren't "the best" and wishing I had waited to save up for the better one.
So if everyone feels that the Whitelines are better, then I'll go with those. Especially with the adjustability. I really don't think that the Whitelines end up being too much more.
Zman, you dont think that i should contact them first do you? Can I not just go ahead and order the bar from the site right now?
So if everyone feels that the Whitelines are better, then I'll go with those. Especially with the adjustability. I really don't think that the Whitelines end up being too much more.
Zman, you dont think that i should contact them first do you? Can I not just go ahead and order the bar from the site right now?
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I made my eibach rear sway bar adjustable by just drilling another hole for the sway bar link closer to the center of the bar. I had to counter sink for the washers to fit where the bar began to become a cylinder, but it works fine and is stiffer than where the original holes are located. fing02.gif
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I made my eibach rear sway bar adjustable by just drilling another hole for the sway bar link closer to the center of the bar. I had to counter sink for the washers to fit where the bar began to become a cylinder, but it works fine and is stiffer than where the original holes are located. fing02.gif
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QUOTE (Jaws021 @ Feb 2 2006, 04:35 PM)
The eibachs are cheaper.. they are also slightly smaller
Hrmm, are you sure?
I could of swore the Eibachs were larger (thicker) and heavier
Here are the Eibachs:
front: http://www.members.shaw.ca/kayjai/IMG_2582.JPG
rears: http://www.members.shaw.ca/kayjai/IMG_2581.JPG
Someone go measure the Whitelines, I was not there when NeoTib had his whitelines installed. So no pix from me
QUOTE (Zman @ Feb 2 2006, 05:32 PM)
Yes, please explain why would you choose the Eibach bars over the Whitelines?
I have H&R springs and Whitelines, I am very happy, but the H&R springs are MUCH firmer than the Eibachs, and maybe they match better with thicker bars. Personally, I tried the Eibach springs with OEM out of the box new shocks (it was a disaster, the car bounced a LOT) and didn't like it, had to change them for GR-2 and it was a lot more noticeable than changing shocks on OEM springs. Maybe the compromise is between the suspension parts, I would think Eibach components are more friendly to other Eibach components, the settings are probably design as a whole.
Anyway, it would be nice to know fist hand what is the different feeling on both combinations, please KayJay just type all you want about your experience.
I have H&R springs and Whitelines, I am very happy, but the H&R springs are MUCH firmer than the Eibachs, and maybe they match better with thicker bars. Personally, I tried the Eibach springs with OEM out of the box new shocks (it was a disaster, the car bounced a LOT) and didn't like it, had to change them for GR-2 and it was a lot more noticeable than changing shocks on OEM springs. Maybe the compromise is between the suspension parts, I would think Eibach components are more friendly to other Eibach components, the settings are probably design as a whole.
Anyway, it would be nice to know fist hand what is the different feeling on both combinations, please KayJay just type all you want about your experience.
That maybe the trick, I think all Eibach stuff is optimized to work best with each other. And changing JUST the springs, and I don't care on WHAT car, with new or worn struts is a no no. Looks yes, handing... forget it. The travel on the OEM strut is WAY too much for lowering springs.
I think most have found a good combo with the H&R Springs and KYBs. That seems to work good, but have also heard that the ride is a bit rough. The Prokit springs and strut combo, I must say is very soft (for a "performance" setup) It also feels like stock, but in the corner, NOT like stock smile.gif Almost like it stiffens up. Kinda weird.
The feeling on the whitelines (on both F+R) felt like the car's rear end lifted more when you pushed it, hard. Where the Eibachs felt flatter. I can't explain it more than that. It wasn't much, but that inside rear wheel felt looser. Like if you pushed a STOCK tib, the back end (inside corner) would lift like a SOB! I have 3 wheeled it often before the suspension upgrade smile.gif. Ok at 40-60k's in slalom (like in AutoX), however, a little scarey at 150k's wink1.gif But that also gives you time and saved my ass a couple of times, for you to go, "Oh no, maybe I should let off the gas" smile.gif After the upgrade, I have experienced the wheels (all 4) give out and slide at 150k's. It was a week after I got the suspension, and was not used to it, yet, was waiting for the little lift to give me the sign, but never did,... it just WENT! Good thing, I didn't panic and let off the gas and was able to counter steer it, but none the less, SCARED THE CRAP OUTTA ME!!!
Anyway, yeah, best way I can explain it, less lift on the inside rear wheel. Felt more planted,...
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QUOTE (Jaws021 @ Feb 2 2006, 04:35 PM)
The eibachs are cheaper.. they are also slightly smaller
Hrmm, are you sure?
I could of swore the Eibachs were larger (thicker) and heavier
Here are the Eibachs:
front: http://www.members.shaw.ca/kayjai/IMG_2582.JPG
rears: http://www.members.shaw.ca/kayjai/IMG_2581.JPG
Someone go measure the Whitelines, I was not there when NeoTib had his whitelines installed. So no pix from me
QUOTE (Zman @ Feb 2 2006, 05:32 PM)
Yes, please explain why would you choose the Eibach bars over the Whitelines?
I have H&R springs and Whitelines, I am very happy, but the H&R springs are MUCH firmer than the Eibachs, and maybe they match better with thicker bars. Personally, I tried the Eibach springs with OEM out of the box new shocks (it was a disaster, the car bounced a LOT) and didn't like it, had to change them for GR-2 and it was a lot more noticeable than changing shocks on OEM springs. Maybe the compromise is between the suspension parts, I would think Eibach components are more friendly to other Eibach components, the settings are probably design as a whole.
Anyway, it would be nice to know fist hand what is the different feeling on both combinations, please KayJay just type all you want about your experience.
I have H&R springs and Whitelines, I am very happy, but the H&R springs are MUCH firmer than the Eibachs, and maybe they match better with thicker bars. Personally, I tried the Eibach springs with OEM out of the box new shocks (it was a disaster, the car bounced a LOT) and didn't like it, had to change them for GR-2 and it was a lot more noticeable than changing shocks on OEM springs. Maybe the compromise is between the suspension parts, I would think Eibach components are more friendly to other Eibach components, the settings are probably design as a whole.
Anyway, it would be nice to know fist hand what is the different feeling on both combinations, please KayJay just type all you want about your experience.
That maybe the trick, I think all Eibach stuff is optimized to work best with each other. And changing JUST the springs, and I don't care on WHAT car, with new or worn struts is a no no. Looks yes, handing... forget it. The travel on the OEM strut is WAY too much for lowering springs.
I think most have found a good combo with the H&R Springs and KYBs. That seems to work good, but have also heard that the ride is a bit rough. The Prokit springs and strut combo, I must say is very soft (for a "performance" setup) It also feels like stock, but in the corner, NOT like stock smile.gif Almost like it stiffens up. Kinda weird.
The feeling on the whitelines (on both F+R) felt like the car's rear end lifted more when you pushed it, hard. Where the Eibachs felt flatter. I can't explain it more than that. It wasn't much, but that inside rear wheel felt looser. Like if you pushed a STOCK tib, the back end (inside corner) would lift like a SOB! I have 3 wheeled it often before the suspension upgrade smile.gif. Ok at 40-60k's in slalom (like in AutoX), however, a little scarey at 150k's wink1.gif But that also gives you time and saved my ass a couple of times, for you to go, "Oh no, maybe I should let off the gas" smile.gif After the upgrade, I have experienced the wheels (all 4) give out and slide at 150k's. It was a week after I got the suspension, and was not used to it, yet, was waiting for the little lift to give me the sign, but never did,... it just WENT! Good thing, I didn't panic and let off the gas and was able to counter steer it, but none the less, SCARED THE CRAP OUTTA ME!!!
Anyway, yeah, best way I can explain it, less lift on the inside rear wheel. Felt more planted,...
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If it felt more planted, then it's because the Eibach's arent as stiff as the Whitelines. They're giving way more and allowing the inner wheel to drop down to the pavement. In that case, you'd need to adjust the front. But that doesn't mean that the Whiteline isn't as good. In fact, it means that it's better.
As for the size, someone did a comparison on them a long time ago on HA.com and had them side by side. The Whitelines were like 1 or 2mm bigger. Or they were the same and the adjustability to a stiffer setting put the Whiteline over the top.
As for the size, someone did a comparison on them a long time ago on HA.com and had them side by side. The Whitelines were like 1 or 2mm bigger. Or they were the same and the adjustability to a stiffer setting put the Whiteline over the top.
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If it felt more planted, then it's because the Eibach's arent as stiff as the Whitelines. They're giving way more and allowing the inner wheel to drop down to the pavement. In that case, you'd need to adjust the front. But that doesn't mean that the Whiteline isn't as good. In fact, it means that it's better.
As for the size, someone did a comparison on them a long time ago on HA.com and had them side by side. The Whitelines were like 1 or 2mm bigger. Or they were the same and the adjustability to a stiffer setting put the Whiteline over the top.
As for the size, someone did a comparison on them a long time ago on HA.com and had them side by side. The Whitelines were like 1 or 2mm bigger. Or they were the same and the adjustability to a stiffer setting put the Whiteline over the top.
