Stock Lug Nuts Specs
11-16-2006, 07:09 AM
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ok Techs, here something to chew on.
so im on napaonline looking at teh specs on wheel bolts, and they list a front and a rear
why ??
whats the deal with that ? possibly for rear drums ?? i listed the car as a 2000 hyundai so why 2 different parts ?
are the hubs a different thickness ?
it would seem by the numbers that maybe the rear hub is thicker !!
im looking getting some ARP wheel bolts
part number 7717 35 bux for 5 on summit racing or 142 on ebay for 20
but for cheaper i coud get ARP part number 7721 these are 27 bux for 5 on summit racing
i did the conversions from mm to inches as the ARP specs are in inches
this is some conversation i had with 01steve on the matter:
stock specs as per NAPA
FRONT
Item#: BK 6411623
Attributes:
Head Marking:276
Knurl Diameter:14.30mm = .563
Overall Length:35.5mm = 1.397
Shoulder Length:6.5mm = 0.255
Thread Size:M12-1.5
Thread Type:Right Hand
REAR
Item#: BK 6412197
Attributes:
Head Marking:340
Knurl Diameter:13.08mm = 0.515
Overall Length:42mm = 1.653
Shoulder Length:12.5mm = 0.492
Thread Size:M12-1.5
Thread Type:Right Hand
so im on napaonline looking at teh specs on wheel bolts, and they list a front and a rear
why ??
whats the deal with that ? possibly for rear drums ?? i listed the car as a 2000 hyundai so why 2 different parts ?
are the hubs a different thickness ?
it would seem by the numbers that maybe the rear hub is thicker !!
im looking getting some ARP wheel bolts
part number 7717 35 bux for 5 on summit racing or 142 on ebay for 20
but for cheaper i coud get ARP part number 7721 these are 27 bux for 5 on summit racing
i did the conversions from mm to inches as the ARP specs are in inches
this is some conversation i had with 01steve on the matter:
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the arp 7717 for the evo are 3 inches !! i think thats too much, so im looking at arp part number 7721, , if you are for sure that the evo ones work than that would mean that the knurl depth is 0.565 and the length is 0.270, those are the specs on the evo arp lugs.
so the 27 dollar set, part number 7721, has a depth of 0.585 and length of 0.225, i think those would work as they are a little thicker, but they should "mash" in, they are only 2 hundredths thicker. of course they are the same thread, but the key thing is they are shorter, only 2.4 inches long, vice the evo's 3 inches
so the 27 dollar set, part number 7721, has a depth of 0.585 and length of 0.225, i think those would work as they are a little thicker, but they should "mash" in, they are only 2 hundredths thicker. of course they are the same thread, but the key thing is they are shorter, only 2.4 inches long, vice the evo's 3 inches
stock specs as per NAPA
FRONT
Item#: BK 6411623
Attributes:
Head Marking:276
Knurl Diameter:14.30mm = .563
Overall Length:35.5mm = 1.397
Shoulder Length:6.5mm = 0.255
Thread Size:M12-1.5
Thread Type:Right Hand
REAR
Item#: BK 6412197
Attributes:
Head Marking:340
Knurl Diameter:13.08mm = 0.515
Overall Length:42mm = 1.653
Shoulder Length:12.5mm = 0.492
Thread Size:M12-1.5
Thread Type:Right Hand
11-16-2006, 08:31 AM
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stock are heat treated and hold over 600whp our shops drag car and speeds well over 323Kph or 187mph. i dont see any real reson to do this unless you are useing a strange rim size. all the korean Pro race teams use oem.. I myself have never heard of one breaking unless you over torque them
and yes there is a diff in size due to the fact of the drum brakes Vs disk...
and yes there is a diff in size due to the fact of the drum brakes Vs disk...
11-16-2006, 01:26 PM
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We want the ARP ones because we have issues with the OEM ones snapping when removing the lugs.
I've had to replace 3 in the past year.
I've had to replace 3 in the past year.
11-16-2006, 01:30 PM
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arp arp lugs? do they even make them?
as long as the lug nuts arent cross-threaded on, or super torqued (stock specs are 80ft. lbs), then you shouldnt have any problems with snapping lugs.
i know the thread pitch is 12x1.5
i had planned on getting some slightly longer ones than stock for whenever i get some wheel spacers.
as long as the lug nuts arent cross-threaded on, or super torqued (stock specs are 80ft. lbs), then you shouldnt have any problems with snapping lugs.
i know the thread pitch is 12x1.5
i had planned on getting some slightly longer ones than stock for whenever i get some wheel spacers.
11-16-2006, 01:49 PM
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That's the thing. I get my tires done at Discount Tire and they put them on with a torque wrench. I've watched them do it. I STILL have had 2 snapped off after I've watched them do it correctly.
The OEM studs seem to corrode a bit, so now I clean them with a wire brush every time I take off my wheels.
The OEM studs seem to corrode a bit, so now I clean them with a wire brush every time I take off my wheels.
11-18-2006, 05:53 PM
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mad john you are high on crack !! dont do drugs !!
SOCK LUGS SUCK !!!!!! i have broken like 3 just by hand !! not even with an air gun !!
arp is they way to go, but no one has really answered any of the questions to this topic !! ok im just gonna do a test fit of the 7721's from summitracing.com
ill let you guys know.
SOCK LUGS SUCK !!!!!! i have broken like 3 just by hand !! not even with an air gun !!
arp is they way to go, but no one has really answered any of the questions to this topic !! ok im just gonna do a test fit of the 7721's from summitracing.com
ill let you guys know.
11-19-2006, 10:22 AM
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^,^ Thats very strange i have never broke any. or stripped any out sincei have had mine 33.gif.. It seem the only time i have ever seen one sheer off is when a Air impac gun is used.. mmmm..If thats the case.. i can see you logic.. make a stick when the correct ARP studs for the F/R are comfermed for both setups.. meaning F/disks and R/disks and or Drums....
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We posted up about the proper ARP ones in a thread about a week ago, part numbers and all.
11-19-2006, 04:26 PM
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mad john, are you serious my mang ??
did you even read the post ??
the part numbers are in the 1st post here, as well as this thread on ARP stuff
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did you even read the post ??
the part numbers are in the 1st post here, as well as this thread on ARP stuff
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