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random, red, shadohh???
i was reading about weight transfer, and this post has to do with lowering the car, so i thought this was the right forum.
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/Weight_T...ht_transfer.htm
it's two short pages (because of a few pictures), so it'll only take 2 minutes to read. anyway, is this true? basically, what i got from it was that if i'm going to lower my car, i need to get new struts that will have a different (shorter) travel. am i right?
btw, this site has some cool things if you go through the "myths" that they have. i really like the splitter page.
[ November 17, 2002, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: turbulence ]
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/Weight_T...ht_transfer.htm
it's two short pages (because of a few pictures), so it'll only take 2 minutes to read. anyway, is this true? basically, what i got from it was that if i'm going to lower my car, i need to get new struts that will have a different (shorter) travel. am i right?
btw, this site has some cool things if you go through the "myths" that they have. i really like the splitter page.
[ November 17, 2002, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: turbulence ]
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In short. Yes.
Why do you think Eibach sells struts AND springs?
However, as they state in the end of the article
Also, Sway bars or anti-sway bars (same thing, 2 names) help in reducing side to side "roll" and weight transfer.
Most cars on the road to day use MacPherson struts front suspension. That article deals with BMW's... BMW's use it, Fords, Dodge, Hyundai, etc... The only exception was the Honda Civic and Acura Integra. They used Double Wishbone front supensions. (the new RSX and Civic use Struts now). The advantage to a double wishbone front suspension is huge. That setup is better in EVERY way over a MacPherson strut setup....execpt one. COST. The Double wishbone setup costs about 3-4 times what a MacPherson strut setup would cost (to make). That is why it is so rarely used...even by high dollar manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, etc..etc..
The automotive world was stunned, and I do mean truely stunned that Honda
#1 Used a double wishbone setup on its car. It was always considered too complicated and too expensive for mass production.
#2. Put it in their BOTTOM OF THE LINE ECONOMY car.
It was, and still is, a crowning achievment for Honda. They did what everyone said was impossible, and they did it on a cheap car, that was affordable.
Anyway...I'll end today's history lesson.
I do suggest you read this
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/travel/travel.htm
Before deciding to lower your car on stock struts.
[ November 17, 2002, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Random ]
Why do you think Eibach sells struts AND springs?
However, as they state in the end of the article
QUOTE
then the stiffer springs offer an increased roll rate to counter-act the increased roll couple. In this case you get reduced weight transfer without necesarilly increasing roll. And often the reduction in weight transfer will offset the reduced camber curve and bump steer effects enough that the car will ulitmately be faster around a track.
99% of aftermarket springs are stiffer than the OEM springs they replace. So the stiffer spring counteracted the increasing roll.Also, Sway bars or anti-sway bars (same thing, 2 names) help in reducing side to side "roll" and weight transfer.
Most cars on the road to day use MacPherson struts front suspension. That article deals with BMW's... BMW's use it, Fords, Dodge, Hyundai, etc... The only exception was the Honda Civic and Acura Integra. They used Double Wishbone front supensions. (the new RSX and Civic use Struts now). The advantage to a double wishbone front suspension is huge. That setup is better in EVERY way over a MacPherson strut setup....execpt one. COST. The Double wishbone setup costs about 3-4 times what a MacPherson strut setup would cost (to make). That is why it is so rarely used...even by high dollar manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, etc..etc..
The automotive world was stunned, and I do mean truely stunned that Honda
#1 Used a double wishbone setup on its car. It was always considered too complicated and too expensive for mass production.
#2. Put it in their BOTTOM OF THE LINE ECONOMY car.
It was, and still is, a crowning achievment for Honda. They did what everyone said was impossible, and they did it on a cheap car, that was affordable.
Anyway...I'll end today's history lesson.
I do suggest you read this
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/travel/travel.htm
Before deciding to lower your car on stock struts.
[ November 17, 2002, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Random ]