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Old 12-22-2009, 05:37 AM
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Hello! First of all – sorry for bad english.

I need help to resolve the problem with coil spring for Tib 96-99. The next table was found at hmaservice.com:



There are 2 types of springs 311.2 mm & 317.2 mm. ID color: for 311.2 mm length the third line is yellow, for 317.2 mm - white.
I have the spring with partnumber 54630-27115:



And it has 3 mark lines: red-blue-yellow. Ok, it’s a case of 311.2 mm.

The question: what is the partnumber with white line?

PS: there’s a set of PNs:
54630-27300 (obsolete) --> 54630-27105
54630-27310 (obsolete) --> 54630-27115
54630-27320 - ?
54630-27100 (obsolete) --> 54630-27105
54630-27105 - ?
54630-27110 (obsolete) --> 54630-27115
54630-27115 - red-blue-yellow, 311.2 mm
54630-27120 - ?
54630-27125 - ?

Do you know anything about ID colors of “?” PNs.

Best regards!
Old 12-22-2009, 02:49 PM
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do you have a manual transmission or an automatic?

I would think the automatic springs (white 3rd line) would support the heavier transmission, so it might be a taller spring to support more weight.

I'm sure both work, it just gives you a different ride height. The manual springs might make it one or two inches lower than the Automatic.
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i doubt they would add a extre coil majik for the auto tranny. it is only 60 lbs. heavier but, we have found crazier stuff with these cars.
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for cars with V6 and i4 engine options, they have different spring sizes... a friend of mine put v6 springs on his i4 Galant and gained about 3" more fender gap.

I agree though... 60 lbs. doesn't seem like much, but if you look at the specs, there's only a 6mm (0.23") difference. Can you think of another reason?
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The A/T cars are somewhere around 100lbs different. Against the advice of some scaredy-cats I cut a coil off my A/T car's springs when I installed the M/T and the front went back down to where it should be. The 1.8L block is about 1" shorter than a 2.0L block and that's got to be several lbs also. I'm going to hazard a guess that the 1.8L/2.0L and M/T / A/T springs are different mostly based on different car weights on the front end.

The coil I cut by the way was a heck of a lot more than 1/2" off the unloaded length of the spring.

The OP seems to be asking if we know of a part number for an A/T car, as he's got a M/T spring. Is this correct, cenzored?
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Thanx for answers! I have 2.0 Tibby with autotranny onboard.
Stocker, it's right - I'm interesting in PNs of stronger a-t springs (white mark).

2 weeks ago I changed front struts & springs (thanx tibbytib for great DIY). Old ones were "dead", so the front of my car went down. After the changing procedure the front doesnot lift at all:



195/65 R15 tires on stock rims.
I think the problem in springs. Very interesting in your ideas!

ps. still searching for stronger coil springs partnumbers Eyecrazy.gif
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Somewhere, someone has posted images from a rare-outside-dealerships shop manuals, with part numbers for almost everything on an RD . . . does anyone remember where those are? I think it was maybe 1/2 dozen BIG pages.
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Here you go, stickied on the DIY section:

http://www.rdtiburon.com/index.php?showtopic=12986
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Stocker, Bommello! Mega-mega-mega thanks.

I've found very interesting, but inconsistent info (direct link to page):



Here's not specified what PN is auto or manual tranny. Also i'm confused by:

1. There's no violet-red or blue-red markups at hmaservice.com for Tibz 96-99.
2. PN 54630-27115 has both blue-red and white marks.

PS: At hmaservice violet-red is M/T mark for 2001 Tibz...
PS2: May be 54630-27115 manufactured for all transmissions - 54630-27115 with yellow mark M/T, 54630-27115 with white mark A/T.

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My eyes crossed reading that, so I'll just post my comment on HMK color codes: random. Hyundai is infamous for having color codes different to what is posted on their *wiring* but I think you may be breaking the ice with spring color problems.

I just had a thought: if you could find the proper plastic, you may be interested in a coil spring filler. I don't know what they're called, but sometimes in NASCAR they jam something in the spring to alter the spring rate. Jamming it into a fully extended spring to prevent 1 or more coils from collapsing might be a temporary fix for you until you can get this question sorted. Ride quality would probably suffer somewhat.

Are you looking for taller springs so you can deal with poor Russian roads, or what is the ultimate goal here?



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