Hey guys!
This is for my 1997 Hyundai Tiburon install of the EX6
Anyone running a HAltech in there Tiburons just got a few questions for you...
First of all since the BETA 1 4cyl Tiburons have an Anolog Crank sensor this has to be changed to a Digital Crank sensor in order for Timing and Ignition to work at its best and being accurate..
Now i did Purchase a 2003 Elantra/Tiburon Crank sensor but apperantly its also an Anolog reading becuase its Magnet and coil and a Digital Sensor would NOT be magnetic..
Anyways i went by my machaincs place and he assured me that the 2003 4Cyl Crank sensor is Anolog becuase its magnetic and was sticking.I also have a 2.7 V6 Crank sensor and it DID not stick to the metal as its Optical
Now i Undnerstand Viper966 Is running the 2003 4Cyl Crank sensor WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS but how did you get this to work 100% on the Ignition and Timing ?????????
My guy said yes it will work but not at its 100% capablilty.He has mentioned that on a digial reading you should get Box like grahs and with anolog is like a Wave up and Down on the graph..

If you look under webtech i checked on both the V6 and 4Cyl Tiburon Crank sensor and its diffently Different where one is Anolog and the other is Digital(V6)
Under V6 Tiburon it says:

The crankshaft position sensor senses the crank angle (piston position) of each cylinder and converts it into a pulse signal. Based on the input signal, the ECM computes the engine speed and controls the fuel injection timing and ignition timing

THIS MEANS ITS DIGITAL...................


For the 4Cyl 2003 Tiburon it says:

The crankshaft position sensor, consists of a magnet and coil, and is located next to the flywheel. The voltage signal from this crankshaft position sensor is relayed to the ECM to indicate engine RPM and the position of the crankshaft.

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS ITS AN ANOLOG SENSOR..

Now my questions to the HAltech users are

1)WHat Crank sensors are most of you guys using
2) If using a V6 Tiburon Crank sensor i need the Harness that plug sin and i cant find one Locally in the scrap yards 02.gif


With my Setup i will be running Seqental and Not batched as my machainic prefers this Better and with my 440cc injectors.I understand its more of a b**** to setup but still prefers this way.
Also i did mention about using the CAm sensor and has saidi DONT need to install it even being sequential because our cars run a 60-2 Tooth setup and ONLY THEN the CAm sensor is not needed.
This is what i have been told...
HAs anyone tried this before?


Any help would be appreciated
Thanks!

 

Im using the V6 2003 crank sensor (its digital). Yes the I4 is analog.

Red was also using the V6 sensor

The V6 crank sensor uses the same harness (well almost). I think it needs to be motified a bit (youll see it once you get it).

From what i remember.. the crank sensor is not needed for sequential. Im not running it.

Good luck

oh crap... remember im running the e6k

 

You're running batch, not sequential.

If the tuner is confident he can do it. let him do it. However, I still think he'll need the Cam sensor for sequential. The cam sensor is digital, so you won't have to swap it. Just leave it in the head, and it's there if he needs it.

 

You guys ROCK!!
Thanks very much for the help laugh.gif

JAws i no what you mean by the V6 Plug being different but in order to modify the V6 crank sensor i was thinking of cutting my Old 4cyl crank sensor and attch it to the new V6 Crank sensor.
How did you modify yours?
Thanks again Guys!

 

I know silly...

Red was planning on running sequential and was not planning on using the cam sensor. This is where he used Jb weld and a 5 cent coin to cover up the sensor hole.

2unique..

i just took some pliers and cut off a piece of the harness...

Buy the sensor.. once you have the sensor and the harness in hand.. take a good look...
Its not hard at all...

You dont want to be messing with the crank sensor wiring... it has heat wrapping...

 

Hey Jaws!
Ya i purchased the V6 crank sensor plug and did notice the difference in size.So i guess the best way is by cutting the corners on the V6 crank harness and try to reshape it?
If you can post a pic of the Cut harness that would be great
Thanks!

 

Wha?!?~?~?

ummm
they are the same size..

I think the beta I has 2 notches.. and the v6 has 3...

Cut the one in the middle and your set..

Or something like that..

Ill check later tonight while im installing my wideband.

 

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Hey Jaws!
The actual V6 Crank sensor Plug (MALE END WITH 3 PINS)is a HAIR bigger in diamater if you put the ends together,and therefore wont fit into my Wire Harness plug from my 1.8L Tiburon..Its not EVEN close to snapping right in!:-(


If you can take a Pic of the actual Plug you cut that would be great so i have a better understanding of what your saying.
This would be appreciated... smile.gif
Did you actually cut the V6 Crank sensor or the wire harness from the car to make it fit
Let me know ASAP PLEASE

 

ok this is seriusly lthe LAST time im gonna answer this

the crank sensor is magnetic... both of them are magnetic... here is how they work

The Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKPS) is a hall effect type sensor that generates voltage using a sensor and a target wheel mounted on the crankshaft; there are 58 slots in the target wheel where one is longer than all the others. When the slot in the wheel aligns with the sensor, the sensor voltage outputs low. When the metal (tooth) in the wheel aligns with the sensor, the sensor voltage outputs high. During one crankshaft rotation there are 58 rectangular signals and one longer signal. The ECM calculates engine RPM by using the sensor’s signal and controls the injection duration and the ignition timing. Using the signal differences caused by the longer slot, the ECM identifies which cylinder is at top dead center.

look @ the sensor wheel on yoour crankshaft see this

this is the output of the elantra sensor


this is the output of the v6 tiburon sensor



this is the output value that is sent to the hyundai ecu

OMG look they are the same



the reason the pree 2003 crank sensors dont work well is becaus they are a standard wave and do not have a "relay" built in that provides a Nice voltage differance... the haltech cant pin down the signal when it gets faster than 3k rpm


its hard to explain... i know but they BOTH will work

the v6 crank sensor is NOT optical. an pptical trigger system is completly differant and requries a differant sensor wheel and the sensor to be mounted perpindicular to the wheel not parelell

ya know what, im not trying to be a dick... but your "mechanic" doesnt know shit about haltechs and u shouldnt trust him over somebody who installed one already on the same car as you