MSD Ignition
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MSD Ignition
Ok, just a question on comparison for those that understand ignition much better... Is the HO good enough???
there are 2 options for us now:
MSD DIS-2 PROGRAMMABLE (part # PN 6212)
or the new which supposedly many sport compacts are using and here are the basics of it:
MSD DIS-2 HO System (part # PN 62111)
there are 2 options for us now:
MSD DIS-2 PROGRAMMABLE (part # PN 6212)
or the new which supposedly many sport compacts are using and here are the basics of it:
MSD DIS-2 HO System (part # PN 62111)
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OPERATING SPECIFICATIONS
DIS-HO 2 AND 4
Spark Energy: 170 milliJoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 470 Volts
Output Voltage: 43,000 Volts (Stock Coil)
Operating Voltage: 12-18 Volts, NEG. Ground
Current Draw: DIS-2 HO, 5.3 amps@10,000 rpm
DIS-4 HO, 10 amps@10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 12,500 rpm w/14.4 Volt Supply
Program two rev limits for consistent launches and over-rev protection.
Retard the timing at top end to prevent detonation.
LED monitor will alert you of a low supply voltage or faulty input signals.
Ignition Interrupt will prevent the engine from starting by disabling the output to the coil.
"Programmable Timing Control
Precise timing control is essential to producing maximum engine power. With the addition of nitrous, turbos or supercharger systems, timing becomes even more critical. To get the most out of your engine, the ignition must be able to compensate for these extreme changes in cylinder pressure throughout the engine’s entire rpm range. During low speed operation, the MSD DIS Ignitions use the factory ignition to control basic timing functions. Once maximum timing is achieved, the DIS-2 and DIS-4 can be programmed to retard the timing at a specific rate and rpm point to prevent engine damage due to detonation caused by excessive timing."
DIS-HO 2 AND 4
Spark Energy: 170 milliJoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 470 Volts
Output Voltage: 43,000 Volts (Stock Coil)
Operating Voltage: 12-18 Volts, NEG. Ground
Current Draw: DIS-2 HO, 5.3 amps@10,000 rpm
DIS-4 HO, 10 amps@10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 12,500 rpm w/14.4 Volt Supply
Program two rev limits for consistent launches and over-rev protection.
Retard the timing at top end to prevent detonation.
LED monitor will alert you of a low supply voltage or faulty input signals.
Ignition Interrupt will prevent the engine from starting by disabling the output to the coil.
"Programmable Timing Control
Precise timing control is essential to producing maximum engine power. With the addition of nitrous, turbos or supercharger systems, timing becomes even more critical. To get the most out of your engine, the ignition must be able to compensate for these extreme changes in cylinder pressure throughout the engine’s entire rpm range. During low speed operation, the MSD DIS Ignitions use the factory ignition to control basic timing functions. Once maximum timing is achieved, the DIS-2 and DIS-4 can be programmed to retard the timing at a specific rate and rpm point to prevent engine damage due to detonation caused by excessive timing."
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I have been looking into ignitions my self and with just the i belive 6212 that is just a ignition replacement it dosnt retard when boost is applied you have to purchase a separate unit total price about 5-600 im sure if i look i could get it cheeper. I have found though a boost retard unit that works with your stock ignition for only like 167 or so from sumit (will this work on the tiburon?) if not i will also have to use the 6212 with the other unit also
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Summit Racing has a MSD-6 Racing ignition (part # MSD-6462) that has a boost timing master for use with super or turbocharged engines. It only cost $335.95USD. This is the unit that I had loged on to ask about. Has anyone used this unit with an Alpine Turbo?
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Hey Bat ...
Have you considered giving the MSD Tech line a call to see what they may recommend? Just scanning the information over, I think you would find better success with the 6212 over the 62111. But there may be something we are missing, that an MSD Tech could point out to favor one over the other. Give em a shout, (915) 855-7123.
Spec on DIS2 HO unit :
Spark Energy: 170 milliJoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 470 Volts
Output Voltage: 43,000 Volts (Stock Coil)
Operating Voltage: 12-18 Volts, NEG. Ground
Current Draw: DIS-2 HO, 5.3 amps@10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 12,500 rpm w/14.4 Volt Supply
Spec on DIS2 Programmable:
Spark Energy: 190 millijoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 500 Volts
Output Voltage 50,000 w/ Blaster Coils
Spark Duration: 20°
Operating Voltage: 11-18 Volts, Negative Ground
Current Draw: 8 Amps @ 10,000 RPM
RPM Range: 15,000 RPM with 14 Volt Input
The only additional piece you may need would be the cam synch kit #2346
Another piece to consider would be a Jacob's Accu-volt. This will step up the battery power to a rock solid 14.4 volts. Power the MSD off this to improve the overall performance of the unit. Also does wonders for stereo gear too.
Have you considered giving the MSD Tech line a call to see what they may recommend? Just scanning the information over, I think you would find better success with the 6212 over the 62111. But there may be something we are missing, that an MSD Tech could point out to favor one over the other. Give em a shout, (915) 855-7123.
Spec on DIS2 HO unit :
Spark Energy: 170 milliJoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 470 Volts
Output Voltage: 43,000 Volts (Stock Coil)
Operating Voltage: 12-18 Volts, NEG. Ground
Current Draw: DIS-2 HO, 5.3 amps@10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 12,500 rpm w/14.4 Volt Supply
Spec on DIS2 Programmable:
Spark Energy: 190 millijoules Per Spark
Primary Voltage: 500 Volts
Output Voltage 50,000 w/ Blaster Coils
Spark Duration: 20°
Operating Voltage: 11-18 Volts, Negative Ground
Current Draw: 8 Amps @ 10,000 RPM
RPM Range: 15,000 RPM with 14 Volt Input
The only additional piece you may need would be the cam synch kit #2346
Another piece to consider would be a Jacob's Accu-volt. This will step up the battery power to a rock solid 14.4 volts. Power the MSD off this to improve the overall performance of the unit. Also does wonders for stereo gear too.
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no no, see it's not the question of is the 6212 better, I and everyone else knows it's better cause it's programmable, and has boost timing control... but is the 62111 good enough... Oh well no matter, I'm crossing my fingers that it is, cause I didn't have the extra 100 bux for the programmable, so I ended up going with the HO unit... I'll let you know how it goes...
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i just got the dis-4. i know it is for v-6 but msd said i can use it as long as i follow the dis-2 install. i wont use 4 of the wires.
when you all hook yours up, can you let me know which wires you used from the car? i am ready to hook mine in but i have no idea which color wire does what and from where.
i looked on the coil and there are 3 wires in the male connector that are black/white, red and white.
on the female end of that same conector the colors are white, green and brown.
you also have to hook wires into the powertrain control module. where is that located in the car?
when you all hook yours up, can you let me know which wires you used from the car? i am ready to hook mine in but i have no idea which color wire does what and from where.
i looked on the coil and there are 3 wires in the male connector that are black/white, red and white.
on the female end of that same conector the colors are white, green and brown.
you also have to hook wires into the powertrain control module. where is that located in the car?
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PCM would handle all functions of the powertrain. Hyundai does not use that. WHat have ECU and have TCMs old style seperate.
Were is it located? tell us what car ya got.
in a tuburon it to left of the clutch pedal for m/t.
if its an a/t the TCM to the left of the brake pedal and the ecu is to the left of the TCM
Were is it located? tell us what car ya got.
in a tuburon it to left of the clutch pedal for m/t.
if its an a/t the TCM to the left of the brake pedal and the ecu is to the left of the TCM
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Shadohh:
PCM would handle all functions of the powertrain. Hyundai does not use that. WHat have ECU and have TCMs old style seperate.
Were is it located? tell us what car ya got.
in a tuburon it to left of the clutch pedal for m/t.
if its an a/t the TCM to the left of the brake pedal and the ecu is to the left of the TCM
i have a 5 speed manual 2001 tib.
PCM would handle all functions of the powertrain. Hyundai does not use that. WHat have ECU and have TCMs old style seperate.
Were is it located? tell us what car ya got.
in a tuburon it to left of the clutch pedal for m/t.
if its an a/t the TCM to the left of the brake pedal and the ecu is to the left of the TCM