Hi all... The service department of my current Hyundai Certified shop was trying to explain something to me that just doesn't make any sense.

Here is the problem:

Since about 6 months ago, the car is very hard to shift into reverse (for the record, it is a manual transmission 2k1 Tib). I can park it in first and then carefully or forcefully attempt to shift to reverse, it enters the gear part way but if you disengage the clutch at this point, it grinds (obvious right?). Force it all you want, it will not advance further into reverse until you have either grinded it or you shift through first and sencond before attempting reverse. After either of these, it just slides in a smooth as it used to. The local grease monkey claims this is normal. I am inclined to believe him *if* some of you can support this and give me a reason for it. I have driven standard transmission cars for over ten years now and never had this happen before, if he is right, then others out there should have similar occurances with their cars.

If this sounds odd to you, let me know what you think might be happening. I have my own idea, but want to hear yours. (mostly I think he isn't listening to me due to my obvious lack of facial hair and a penis)

 

sounds rather normal to me. Reverse is not syncronized like the others gears.

As for not having trouble before and but now having a hard time.. not sure.

I have my shifts into reverse smoothly if I simply dont put the clutch to the floor.

 

well i owned 2 other clutches other then my tib and never had any kind of problem with going into reverse, untill i did the cluth job on the tib. after the clutch install on the tib it usually takes like two times befor it goes into gear.

have you tried going from first into reverse? it sounds wierd but i know it works sumtimes.

 

I have tried from first to reverse... I most often park my car in first and then reverse out of my driveway. It just doesn`t go.

Shaddoh, this is something that you are familiar with? Whether I shift smoothly or forcefully, it just doesn`t go. I will try your trick of only partly engaging the clutch.

 

Yeah, I mean, any transmission with an unsrycronized gear. Is going to be hard to get it into gear.

Its just a trait of the tiburon transmission. Why you did not have a problem before and now all the sudden its giving your trouble.

 

I am not sure why it is a problem now. It has been a pain for awhile though. It started about 6 months ago and even then, it was just occasional and not as bothersome. It seemed to be getting worse and is now at a stasis... no worse no better for a little while now.

I taught someone how to drive standard in this car, but beyond a few minor grinds, poppings of the clutch, the transmission was still treated nicely. This shouldn`t have done it. I

f this is normal, maybe I just got lucky in the first year of ownership. It isn`t anything that I would get rid of the car for as I am happy in general with the performance of the Tiburon.

 

Terri, my transmission is the same (though I have an Accent). Try shifting into second and then into reverse (the 2-R trick).

I have been using the 2-R trick for a couple of months since someone advised me that it was the best way to avoid getting that awful crunch when shifting into reverse. It has worked like a charm for me. And no I am not being paid to say this... lol.

I believe what it does is stop various gears from spinning, which eliminates the crunch. If that is the case, then it makes sense that none of the others gears would require such a trick, because as Shadohh said, reverse is the only gear that's not synchronized.

I actually learned the 2-R trick earlier this year when I was having clutch problems... I told someone reverse was grinding every time I went to back up and they said to try the 2-R thing. Since I've had a new clutch in the car (since January), reverse has crunched once, when I forgot to do the 2-R. It's a bit of a pain, but whatever.

My old VW never required any such technique for a smooth shift into reverse, so maybe it is a quirk of Hyundai transmissions...

If none of the forward gears are giving you problems, the reverse thing isn't a big deal from what I have heard.

[ October 31, 2002, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: stickshift ]

 

If my reverse gives me trouble I shift into fith then reverse slids right in. One easy stroke right down.

To bad we dont have a nice new 6spd, they have a syncro on reverse. I wonder if the new 5spds do, mmmmmm

 

Yeah, a synchro'd reverse would be real nice... and it would save the crunchiness for my corn flakes... smile.gif

 

Thanks guys for the advice. It is SO hard for me to know when someone is being truthful or just giving me lip service. I have had bad experiences before but have been able to circumvent them before by knowing more (for example, car dealers notoriously feed lines to women and I always get them... "see our wonderful selection of colours? can you imagine yourself in red?" one of them once asked me to which I promptly replied, "but I want numbers, engine size, how many cylinders, what power options do I have." The dealer no longer tried to bs me about cute little vanity mirrors and convenient cup holder locations.