00-02 1.6L Torque Converter
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Vehicle: 2004 Hyundai Accent 1.6T
QUOTE(187sks @ Apr 13 2008, 11:45 PM)
Yeah, Kia wanted the Spectra 5 to be quicker so they geared it lower instead of giving it more power. It's 5 speed will bolt to your engine but you'll need new mounts. If you want higher top speed look through the gear ratios of other Beta trannys. I would say wait until yours gives you trouble though. Turbo cars are not as hard on trannys as N/A cars of similar power output.
Yeah, I figured id try to reach that 200 whp goal of mine and see how it all feels.....also to you mentioned someone had 244 to the wheels of a turbo 1.6? who and where is he? Id like to talk to him.
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His screenname on HP is T-WING. I haven't seen him on in a long time and he was selling his car last I heard. He lives in Australia. After looking back for some reason he brought his number down to 233whp. That's still about 270 at the crank.
Here's the thread where he sold his car:
SOLD
Here's the thread where he sold his car:
SOLD
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QUOTE(187sks @ Apr 14 2008, 08:44 AM)
His screenname on HP is T-WING. I haven't seen him on in a long time and he was selling his car last I heard. He lives in Australia. After looking back for some reason he brought his number down to 233whp. That's still about 270 at the crank.
Here's the thread where he sold his car:
SOLD
Here's the thread where he sold his car:
SOLD
270 crank? really that high? I would think about 256 crank if he has 233 at the wheels...anyway...found his email through the thread...guy hasnt been on in 2 years! I hope he remembers the car and all that. Its said it was sold...but didnt say to who...that I wanna find out...maybe they are on the HP forum still and just havnt done or said anything...or they totalled the car huh.gif ...thats too sad to even consider at this time.
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Yeah, I say 270fwhp or so. It varies from car to car but the most reliable information I've seen where someone engine dynoed and then chassis dynoed a few engines it came out to be about 15-20% drivetrain loss on FWD manual cars. I use 17% for all my calculations. Nothing tested got as low as 10% drivetrain loss. I think one got 12% or so. Some cars were over 33% with AWD.
From what I've seen that's as reliable a number as any. It won't be even close to accurate in every instance but since I don't know the drivetrain loss on our cars I use my standard. Bottom line is that it is impossible to know without actually removing the engine and testing it. If you want to be conservative 10% is a nice conservative number to use.
From what I've seen that's as reliable a number as any. It won't be even close to accurate in every instance but since I don't know the drivetrain loss on our cars I use my standard. Bottom line is that it is impossible to know without actually removing the engine and testing it. If you want to be conservative 10% is a nice conservative number to use.
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Well I suck at math.I just figured that if the stock HP is 105 at the crank and when 89-91 at the wheel that you would take the same 15-20 hp away to get the wheel HP...true though no way of knowing for sure unless yu took the engine out....either way..if he really had that amount of power running on his tranny 200 should be a breeze...
QUOTE(187sks @ Apr 14 2008, 02:27 PM)
Yeah, I say 270fwhp or so. It varies from car to car but the most reliable information I've seen where someone engine dynoed and then chassis dynoed a few engines it came out to be about 15-20% drivetrain loss on FWD manual cars. I use 17% for all my calculations. Nothing tested got as low as 10% drivetrain loss. I think one got 12% or so. Some cars were over 33% with AWD.
From what I've seen that's as reliable a number as any. It won't be even close to accurate in every instance but since I don't know the drivetrain loss on our cars I use my standard. Bottom line is that it is impossible to know without actually removing the engine and testing it. If you want to be conservative 10% is a nice conservative number to use.
From what I've seen that's as reliable a number as any. It won't be even close to accurate in every instance but since I don't know the drivetrain loss on our cars I use my standard. Bottom line is that it is impossible to know without actually removing the engine and testing it. If you want to be conservative 10% is a nice conservative number to use.