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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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The Pima County Regional SWAT team fired 71 shots in seven seconds at a Tucson man they say pointed a gun at officers serving a search warrant at his home.



Jose Guerena, 26, a former Marine who served in Iraq twice, was holding an AR-15 rifle when he was killed, but he never fired a shot, the Sheriff's Department said Monday after initially saying he had fired on officers during last week's raid.



Six days after Guerena was shot, few details about the investigation that brought the SWAT team to the southwest-side home Guerena shared with his wife and their two young sons are known. Guerena's role in the narcotics investigation is unclear and deputies would not comment on what was seized from his home.



Three other homes within a quarter of a mile from Guerena's house, were served search warrants related to the investigation that morning. The addresses and the names of people who live in the other homes have not been made public.



Vanessa Guerena says she heard noise outside their home about 9 a.m. Thursday and woke her husband who had just gone to bed after working a 12-hour shift at the Asarco Mine, she said. There were no sirens or shouts of "police," she said.



Guerena told his wife and son to hide inside a closet and he grabbed the AR-15 rifle, his wife said.



The department says SWAT members were clear when identifying themselves while entering the home.



"Tucson is notorious for home invasions and we didn't want to look like that," said Lt. Michael O'Connor of the Pima County Sheriff's Department. "We went lights and sirens and we absolutely did not do a 'no-knock' warrant."



When five SWAT members broke through the front door Guerena was crouched down pointing the gun at them, said O'Connor.



"The suspect said, 'I've got something for you,' when he saw them," O'Connor said. Guerena's wife denied he said that.



Deputies began shooting.



A deputy's bullet struck the side of the doorway, causing chips of wood to fall on his shield. That prompted some members of the team to think the deputy had been shot, O'Connor said.



The Sheriff's Department put in a call to Drexel Heights fire at 9:43 a.m. requesting assistance with a shooting. But crews were told to hold off.

Guerena was dead by the time they were allowed in the house, fire officials said.



Vanessa Guerena vividly remembers seeing her wounded husband.



"When I came out the officers dragged me through the kitchen and took me outside, and that's when I saw him laying there gasping for air," Vanessa Guerena said. "I kept begging the officers to call an ambulance that maybe he could make it and that my baby was still inside."



The little boy soon after walked out of the closet on his own. SWAT members took him outside to be with his mother.



"I never imagined I would lose him like that, he was badly injured but I never thought he could be killed by police after he served his country," Vanessa Guerena said.



The family's 5-year-old son was at school that morning and deputies say they thought Guerena's wife and his other child would also be gone when they entered the home.



Guerena says there were no drugs in their house.



Deputies said they seized a "large sum of money from another house" that morning. But they refused to say from which of the homes searched that morning they found narcotics, drug ledgers or drug paraphernalia. Court documents showing what was being sought and was found have not been made public. A computer check on Guerena revealed a couple of traffic tickets and no criminal history.



Guerena was a Tucson native and Flowing Wells High School graduate. He joined the U.S. Marines in 2002. He served two tours in Iraq in 2003 and 2005 as part of the Yuma-based MWSS-173 under direct supervision of Master Sgt. Leo Verdugo.



Verdugo was with Guerena's family Tuesday afternoon. He gave them a Marine Corps jacket and gloves to use at Guerena's burial.



"He was an excellent Marine, with a bright future ahead of him," Verdugo said.



"We had just bought a home and he was working graveyard shifts and overtime just to help pay the bills, we were just starting to make this house our home," Vanessa Guerena said.



"I know I can't have him back but I want justice. I want explanations for what happened," she said.


http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crim...f206f8301.html



Seems pretty excessive...
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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I'm so tired of seeing so many stories like this.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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It's definitely sad.



Several points in the article create suspicion for me:

Seizures were made from the home, yet details were not released. He may be innocent, but unfortunately most would presume guilt.



It was a coordinated raid with other homes in the area, nearby. Very common with drug stings and taking down operations. Drugs in one house, money in another, key people in another - rarely in the same place if it's a big operation.



He's already working overtime and graveyard shifts to pay bills - unfortunately that leads to alternative measures for some people (possibly narcotics)



He's woken up because his wife hears something, and his first instinct is to grab a nearby AR-15 and have his wife/son hide in a closet? If he wasn't expecting police (no sirens according to her) who was he expecting? A salesman, the Jehova's Witness group I've seen in my own neighborhood for the last few weeks, or someone else with a firearm? Most people (Floyd excluded) probably wouldn't go for firearms if they heard something outside their home at 9am. Especially if it's true that SWAT went in hot with sirens and lights.



Regardless, it's a bad situation for all involved. The marine, his family, the officers, and the community.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Mental note, plant IEDs at the front door for just such and emergency.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Someone knocks on my door when I'm not expecting someone I get armed before answering it. If at all possible I have someone else answer when I am in a good position and armed.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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I don't doubt it, Floyd.





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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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I am with Floyd on the armed thing, but if I heard sirens outside I think I would leave the weapons as far away from me as possible



My tin foil hat wearing story about protecting myself from someone who I didn't need to protect myself from...



I think I made a schwans food sales guy sh*t himself by doing a Commando/Operator Ambush from behind bushes thing when the shithead, i swear to this day, tried to turn the door knob. I probably would have had him get on the ground until the cops arrived if it wasn't for the truck/uniform and the fact the wife had made an order with them. Why he was there well after dark, didn't knock, and after hearing the door knob move he deserved the crazed (then just returned from Iraq) reaction he got.



Btw, how I got to the bushes,.. I was at the house alone, wife/kids gone. I heard the knob move a little and saw a silhouette in the window we had on the door at that house. I went out the back door as quiet as possible and moved up the side of the house. When I got there he had turned away from me so I came out of the bushes/elephant ear plants that surrounded the porch. Good times.



Please note I did not fire at him, only yelled a little.





picture taken at the time.. lol



On this story... something seems weird, but if he was a criminal and did threaten a swat officer with an AR-15 then his service really doesn't factor in to anything IMO, even if it is almost memorial day. Dont point a gun at cops...



If the cops went on a roid rage then it would be freaking horrible regardless of who was shot up. However, The idea of surviving war to come home and be shot up by those that should protect the innocent, if he was, is a just... wow....
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Old May 27, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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They didn't even have a valid warrant. The sheriff, if he were a decent human, would resign over this incident. As it is not his first time in the "WTF, Sheriff" spotlight, don't hold your breath.



More on the raid itself: http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com...y-did-you.html

The video is pretty damning for at least one of those COPS. SRSLY who just starts shootin' without even seeing what happened inside the house? The enemy of my friend, eh?



I'm thinking more and more of getting a serious reinforcement for my front door. Sure, I don't do anything to deserve getting it beat in with a 50lbs battering ram, but neither did the guy with 71 holes in him. In other countries, this would probably be followed up by a vendetta on those COPS. Here's hoping they serve jail time for murder but again, don't hold your breath.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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^--- WTF!!
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