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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 01:42 PM
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http://gawker.com/kentucky-clerk-kim...ium=socialflow







Kim Davis, the Rowan County, Kentucky, clerk who made headlines for refusing to issue marriage licenses after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled to legalize same-sex marriage in June, has been jailed in contempt of court, local news outlets are reporting.



According to Bluegrass Politics, U.S. District Judge David Bunning ruled to imprison Davis until she begins issuing marriage licenses. “Crowd outside erupts in applause,” the outlet tweeted this afternoon.





She said she wouldnt do it because it was against her religious beliefs. I read that she's on her third marriage too. Hopefully they will fire her and get someone in there that will issue the licenses. In my opinion, if you cant perform your job because of your feelings or beliefs, you shouldnt be in that position and should be let go immediately. She was hired to do a job and regardless of what she believes in, she must do that job or allow someone else in who will.
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 01:57 PM
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Old Sep 3, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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But, magic man in the sky says so...



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Old Sep 4, 2015 | 11:33 AM
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If you fire her for it, then she could sue for religious reasons.



The problem with her having the job while not being morally able to perform the duties is due to her having obtained the position BEFORE the change in the law.

If you had a gravy, well-paid job and suddenly some bogus (to you) rule came into play, you'd probably have a hard time doing it and leaving also. Any other job, like burger flipping, it would be an easy choice to just leave.





It's too bad she has a bad past or else she would have a LOT more people behind her in support.



I'm just irritated with these people who make such a big deal out of these things. Couldn't you just easily move over to the next clerk to get served? Nope, gotta make a point and get on the 6 o'clock news!
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Old Sep 4, 2015 | 04:46 PM
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Yeah................. ya see. I'm pretty sure when the supreme court ruled this unconstitutional, they kind of meant "separation of church and state."
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Old Sep 4, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JonGTR
If you fire her for it, then she could sue for religious reasons.



The problem with her having the job while not being morally able to perform the duties is due to her having obtained the position BEFORE the change in the law.

If you had a gravy, well-paid job and suddenly some bogus (to you) rule came into play, you'd probably have a hard time doing it and leaving also. Any other job, like burger flipping, it would be an easy choice to just leave.





It's too bad she has a bad past or else she would have a LOT more people behind her in support.



I'm just irritated with these people who make such a big deal out of these things. Couldn't you just easily move over to the next clerk to get served? Nope, gotta make a point and get on the 6 o'clock news!




She has an elected government job. Her mandate and oath is to uphold the laws. Laws change all the time. Don't like it, don't run for office. She's THE County Clerk. You can't just "go to a different clerk". Legally, these couples could go to another county to get their license, as the State is the issuer, not the counties. But why should the have to? They live in that county and SCOTUS didn't allow for any religious objections by government officials in their ruling. Only private businesses have an exception.
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 06:22 AM
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In her eyes, GOD is law. Just because some politician in the state office mandated that ALL counties follow his order, doesn't mean that she should have to change her religious views. Don't forget that there is still a dispute about the judicial decision and whether they abused their power. Also, don't forget what part of the country they are in. In that state, God is law and VERY popular among the people. No law is going to make them turn from their religious views, especially if it's a majority of the citizens against it.

The state didn't have to require HER to do that particular job. They could have separated the marriage licensing of her job, and in fact, they did find "deputies" to do the job, but only AFTER throwing her in jail. They could have easily accomodated her views, just as they certainly would have done it if she was a Muslim woman. But, since she's Christian, they didn't think there would be an uprising or opposition, and they felt they could take the easy way out to appease the few L/G community. This is the silent majority everyone is starting to talk about. Now, they're not being so silent anymore as they believe Christians are being attacked when they threw her in jail for her exercising her Christianity.



Again, I think they threw her in jail because she's a white Christian. But, if she was a black Muslim with the same views (and they do), riots would have broken out everywhere until she was released. They would have catered to her much better than they did.





(I do not necessarily take any sides or views in this. This is just an opinion as I try to put myself in other's shoes to see their POV.)
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Old Sep 9, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JonGTR
In her eyes, GOD is law. Just because some politician in the state office mandated that ALL counties follow his order, doesn't mean that she should have to change her religious views. Don't forget that there is still a dispute about the judicial decision and whether they abused their power. Also, don't forget what part of the country they are in. In that state, God is law and VERY popular among the people. No law is going to make them turn from their religious views, especially if it's a majority of the citizens against it.

The state didn't have to require HER to do that particular job. They could have separated the marriage licensing of her job, and in fact, they did find "deputies" to do the job, but only AFTER throwing her in jail. They could have easily accomodated her views, just as they certainly would have done it if she was a Muslim woman. But, since she's Christian, they didn't think there would be an uprising or opposition, and they felt they could take the easy way out to appease the few L/G community. This is the silent majority everyone is starting to talk about. Now, they're not being so silent anymore as they believe Christians are being attacked when they threw her in jail for her exercising her Christianity.


If you are not capable of putting man's law over God's, you shouldn't run for government office. The separation of Church and State is written right into the Constitution. I don't care how red the state is. It's not the State requiring her to do the job, she's the only one who legally can do it. Her name is on every single certificate issued in that county. In fact, the licenses the deputies issued while she was in jail didn't have her name on them and the State is now saying that they may not be valid because of that. They can't just decide to have someone else do it. This is an elected office. To make changes to the responsibilities of that office would require (probably) either an act of the State Legislature or an amendment to the State's Constitution. Oh, and I absolutely guarantee that if a Muslim in office refused to do a part of their job because Sharia law prohibited it, the Christians wouldn't be talking about religious exceptions or freedoms. They'd be marching with pitchforks and torches... and that is why ALL religions suck.
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Old Sep 10, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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I spent a lot of time pondering this because on one hand I do believe that the individual on both sides should retain certain rights. However once you are elected to a position you are now a representative of the state, not an employee, an as a representative you are required to be impartial. Upholding the constitution is part of the oath, that is pretty much good day argument.



I would ideally like to see the state setup a way for those opposed to have a once a week fill in so no one is forced to breach their constitutionally protected religious right. However as she has made very clear in this specific instance, she will blockade the action. She needs to be relieved of duty without any further hesitation. She's no longer acting on a religious precedent, but a belligerent one and is failing to uphold the US Constitution as she has been sworn to do. To make matters worse the support has only emboldened her. Get rid of the problem and let it be forgotten.
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Old Sep 15, 2015 | 03:00 PM
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LGBT issues are currently the low hanging fruit of discrimination. This lady is as backwards as if she refused to issue marriage certificates for mixed races or divorce certificates for anyone.





These bible riding jackholes need to at least follow their own laws that supposedly trump those of man instead of picking and choosing. She's a hypocrite and a backwards idiot. History won't remember her, but if it does it'll be as the hypocritical moron that she is.
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