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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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so tell me, why are SUV costs up by 100% in america at a time you would think the opposite?? take that soccer moms! nana.gif

the people who get to decide whether or not to invade ancient forests and raise gas prices are only saving their hybiscus plant in their freshly landscaped yard in front of their mansion estate, by telling their personal gardners to add some miracle grow on their way out to buy their daughter the latest mercades.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (REDZMAN @ Sep 1 2005, 10:52 AM)
One of the main problems with alternative fuels is the fact that it takes more OIL in the processing of it than it saves.


The production hydrogen requires absolutely no oil use. Hydrogen is extracted from water by electrolysis, splitting the hydrogen from the oxygen.

You then have pure hydrogen.

One method of using that to power an engine is to use a tiny bit of hydrogen to combust and turn water to steam, and the pressure change creates movement (similar to a steam engine, only a tiny amount of hydrogen is burned, rather than massive quantities of coal).

http://www.eskimo.com/~ghawk/rotary.html

Not a drop of oil or any other fossil fuel is needed.

Another method is converting the hydrogen in gas state to liquid, and running a liquid-combustion engine, like the one in the BMW that Malik showed me a link to. Converting hydrogen gas to hydrogen liquid requires very cold temperatures. But the use of fossil fuels is not needed to cool the hydrogen by extracting the heat. Because of Boyle's law, you can alter the temperature by changing the pressure.

The downside of this is that liquid hydrogen in the same quantity as gasoline does not yeild as much energy. A happy medium between mixed amounts of liquid/gas needs to be found and put in a useable way.

The good side is that a)hydrogen is renewable. The engine produces hydrogen as a byproduct. b)hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, it would never run low, and no foreign country could cut off anyone's supply. c)It burns absolutely clean, producing only water (hydrogen and oxygen) as a byproduct.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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^^^
True, but you use so much Hydrogen to run a car. Not to mention the problems with storage.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Here you go, take a look at this I just found

Link to a Yahoo News picture
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