Off Topic Cafe If it doesn't belong in any of the other forums. Post all Off Topic stuff here.

City Gone Crazy

Thread Tools
 
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:00 AM
  #1  
auburnfan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Bristol, Va
Default

I know that we have a post on the gas prices but this is different. This town has just about sucked all of the pumps dry and on top of that there is not one auto parts place that has a locking gas cap. I was going to get one for my Tibby and one for my wifes 05 focus zx4 series. If anyone may know where I can get these please let me know. Plus what are the people doing in all of your alls towns????
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:03 AM
  #2  
Joshuwa's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 818
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Default

...and so it begins...

Nothing like that is happening year (yet) but for crying out loud...how high do gas prices have to be before it's realized as a crisis? How much theft and panic has to occur?

In Georgia, gas prices were reaching over $6 a gallon. Now understandibly in the hurricane states gas will be a little higher right now. But this is enough. I've had it, and if people don't do something NOW, it will only get worse. The more we accept this, the more it will be given to us. This is unacceptable in every way.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:03 AM
  #3  
homey14h's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 0
From: Ohio, USA
Default

same thing as always, i live in cincy ohio and the only thing was gas shot up 50 cents to 3.09...i hear once they figure out just the extent of the damage itll go up closer to 4 or 5 a gallon.

**whats weird is the gas at the pumps NOW was drilled and refined months ago, the price hike is to pay for future months, also in actuality we are paying less than what we SHOULD be...**
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:06 AM
  #4  
auburnfan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Bristol, Va
Default

I live in a pretty small town and some of the pumps had 3.29 on them already.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:08 AM
  #5  
homey14h's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 0
From: Ohio, USA
Default

if it comes to the point where we NEED to, do you think they will drill in alaska? there are huge amounts of oil up there but due to conservation laws no drilling is allowed
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:54 AM
  #6  
JonGTR's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,166
Likes: 6
From: San Antonio, TEXAS!!!
Vehicle: 01 Tiburon Turbo, 99 Tiburon F2E, 2013 Avalon XLE Touring
Default

Nope, not until we kill all the democrats.

True story.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:57 AM
  #7  
REDZMAN's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 34,642
Likes: 0
From: Los Lunas, New Mexico, USA.
Vehicle: 2001 Hyundai Tiburon, 2004 Kia Sorento, 2010 Kia Soul
Default

Auburn, fill out your profile so we know where you are from


QUOTE (homey14h @ Sep 1 2005, 08:08 AM)
if it comes to the point where we NEED to, do you think they will drill in alaska? there are huge amounts of oil up there but due to conservation laws no drilling is allowed


Nope. Thanks to greenpeace and all the tree huggers, we can't drill in the places that have the MOST of our own oil.

We could be out of this stranglehold so easily, but we aren't allowed to because some Moose might get some oil on his antler.

f*** the moose.

LOL

The main problem right now is REFINEMENT. Not supply.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:02 AM
  #8  
auburnfan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 249
Likes: 0
From: Bristol, Va
Default

They lifted the refinement qualities yesterday so hopefully that will help. I do not think that we will ever get to drill up there until they can find another way to let the moose get its groove on.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:11 AM
  #9  
Joshuwa's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 818
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Default

I think time/money/research should be spent finding NEW alternatives to fossil fuels, rather than destroying our environment to harvest a fuel that is ineffeciant, unclean, and expensive.

Different types of fuels can be found, but the environment cannot be replaced. Ancient forests, habitats, and species can never be replaced once they're gone. These things should be more important than that.

Naturally, one would think that would increase gas prices by holding out like that, but gas prices aren't set in stone by the oil companies. They are negotiated with the gov't. The gov't could easily say 'No, that's too high - our people cannot be forced to pay that'. The oil company has very little leverage in saying no, because if the #1 most oil-using and wasteful country isn't going to buy it, who is? Iceland? Africa? Some 3rd world country that doesn't use oil as much? Not even Europe will buy our share if we're not buying it.

The thing is, the gov't doesn't care at this point (wonder if they would at any point...) and they will let gas prices go as high as people will pay, which from the looks of things, will be pretty high. The gov't makes profit of high gas prices, so the higher, the better for them. They want to keep the prices at a level high enough to make the most profits, while just within 'acceptable limits' that people will still buy it. I'm guessing that limit is $5.25 a gallon - after that people won't buy it so much.

Now the gov't isn't going to get less greedy or just negotiate lower prices out of the good of their hearts. The only thing that will change prices is by changing the 'level of acceptibility' - and only WE can change that. If the gov't sees we won't pay $3.50 a gallon, they know they won't make profits, so they won't buy oil that would yeild such a price. They'd negotiate a cheaper price, they have leverage and ability to do so.

But it's up to us, not them. If $4 a gallon is cool with you, that's fine - but for me and a whole lot of other people, that's just not acceptable.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:15 AM
  #10  
homey14h's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 0
From: Ohio, USA
Default

QUOTE (Joshuwa @ Sep 1 2005, 09:11 AM)
Now the gov't isn't going to get less greedy or just negotiate lower prices out of the good of their hearts. The only thing that will change prices is by changing the 'level of acceptibility' - and only WE can change that. If the gov't sees we won't pay $3.50 a gallon, they know they won't make profits, so they won't buy oil that would yeild such a price. They'd negotiate a cheaper price, they have leverage and ability to do so.

But it's up to us, not them. If $4 a gallon is cool with you, that's fine - but for me and a whole lot of other people, that's just not acceptable.


yea but that would take a HUGE movement to get that to happen, as of right now people will pay the price because most have no choice.

but the thing about refinement stations is the amount of time and money needed to build these.
Reply



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:39 AM.