Interfuse OBDII Bluetooh + Torque app + 5 min fuse box cover mod
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Interfuse OBDII Bluetooh + Torque app + 5 min fuse box cover mod
looks like the spike is 20lbs. I haven't got much time to fool around with it yet but it seems like it is VERY responsive. The possibilities of viewing sensors is endless!!! I need to figure out the logging better and how to export the logs for the sensors instead of just the trip (if possible)
I will run a graphing log today and see what the boost settles down at. I tried to share a screenshot last night but it didnt' work for some reason.
My goal here is to just bring more information to light about the car so people aren't mis-informed and may get an idea of what could be changed to increase power and economy. More
Data from this morning..
Engine RPM @ idle= ~630-650
Engine AFR @ idle= really close to stoich ~14.5-14.8
Engine Vacuum @ idle (no A/C)= 16-18in/hg
Boost @ WOT in gears 1,2,3 (spike)= 19.7-20.2lbs
AFR @ WOT, full boost= a very rich ~10.2:1 was the richest that was logged
O, and check this out!! worked perfectly.
Here was the stock fusebox cover:
See how it has that little 'inset' molded plastic. It was in the way of enabling the cover to go back on with the ELM 327 OBDII installed... 5 minutes later...
From the front, you can't even tell anything was cut or modded!! No one would know unless they removed it that anything was cut.
voila!
30$ later, 5 minutes of mod time and I now have a good data logging system setup and no one would know.
The Torque app is pretty slick.
You can monitor your 'trips' and it logs where you have been and what speed you were at, at any given time in the trip.
You can run a OBDII scan to see any fault codes.
You can check the entire system and it will give you the value of EVERY scan-able sensor and their high-low limits. When warming up, a couple of them were out of range (obviously)
You can setup custom screens with any sensors that you want from HP (need weight input among other things) torque, 0-60 time, 60-0 braking time, lateral accel, throttle position, engine load, fuel trim, AFR, boost pressure, etc.
I honestly can't believe I went so long with this setup in a vehicle.
I will run a graphing log today and see what the boost settles down at. I tried to share a screenshot last night but it didnt' work for some reason.
My goal here is to just bring more information to light about the car so people aren't mis-informed and may get an idea of what could be changed to increase power and economy. More
Data from this morning..
Engine RPM @ idle= ~630-650
Engine AFR @ idle= really close to stoich ~14.5-14.8
Engine Vacuum @ idle (no A/C)= 16-18in/hg
Boost @ WOT in gears 1,2,3 (spike)= 19.7-20.2lbs
AFR @ WOT, full boost= a very rich ~10.2:1 was the richest that was logged
O, and check this out!! worked perfectly.
Here was the stock fusebox cover:
See how it has that little 'inset' molded plastic. It was in the way of enabling the cover to go back on with the ELM 327 OBDII installed... 5 minutes later...
From the front, you can't even tell anything was cut or modded!! No one would know unless they removed it that anything was cut.
voila!
30$ later, 5 minutes of mod time and I now have a good data logging system setup and no one would know.
The Torque app is pretty slick.
You can monitor your 'trips' and it logs where you have been and what speed you were at, at any given time in the trip.
You can run a OBDII scan to see any fault codes.
You can check the entire system and it will give you the value of EVERY scan-able sensor and their high-low limits. When warming up, a couple of them were out of range (obviously)
You can setup custom screens with any sensors that you want from HP (need weight input among other things) torque, 0-60 time, 60-0 braking time, lateral accel, throttle position, engine load, fuel trim, AFR, boost pressure, etc.
I honestly can't believe I went so long with this setup in a vehicle.
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Fuark, that's great man.
First I'd need to wire up my OBD port
Then get a smartphone
Does the VT use a wideband 02 sensor?
First I'd need to wire up my OBD port
Then get a smartphone
AFR @ WOT, full boost= a very rich ~10.2:1 was the richest that was logged
Does the VT use a wideband 02 sensor?
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I'm not sure. I'd almost be inclined to say yes based on the readings I am getting from the OBDII. Usually OBDII readings are all over the place for the o2 but this seems to be more stable/accurate. It COULD be the way the software interprets the data though.
I would have to get the part # of the o2 sensor and find out if it is narrow or wideband. I'd almost be inclined to say that this day and age, on a turbo car they would use a wideband instead of narrow.
looks like it uses a narrowband sensor so the readings I am getting are not going to be THAT accurate for the AFR.
According to HMASerive, Oxy Sensor 2 has a V output is 0-1v vs. Wideband sensors of 0-5v.
I would have to get the part # of the o2 sensor and find out if it is narrow or wideband. I'd almost be inclined to say that this day and age, on a turbo car they would use a wideband instead of narrow.
looks like it uses a narrowband sensor so the readings I am getting are not going to be THAT accurate for the AFR.
According to HMASerive, Oxy Sensor 2 has a V output is 0-1v vs. Wideband sensors of 0-5v.
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Be careful how you're interpreting the results. I believe for the Genesis, it is NOT using actual AFR for the readout in the Torque app. It's using what the calculated compensated adjustment should be. These are very different from real AFR numbers.
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as they are just results from stock sensors it would definitely be nothing I would base any tuning on (even though nothing available yet) just figured I would relay the stock sensor information.
A stock, full boost AFR of 10:1 or so is pretty typical of OEM conservative mapping though.
A stock, full boost AFR of 10:1 or so is pretty typical of OEM conservative mapping though.
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What bluetooth dongle did you get majik? I thought about getting this for my car, but I was discouraged by the shitty reviews of the cheapo OBD-II thingies, and the good ones are too expensive