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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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No worries. Just keep in mind that thoughts can be expressed more effectively if we refer to the situation rather than people.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Hi Everyone. I was afraid I was the only person who saw Gen Coupe.com for what it is and thought I would be the only person leaving the site for some other forum elsewhere. You guys have no idea how happy I am to see other members here who feel the same way I do about that forum. Now go easy on me and my n00b questions.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Gen Coupe doesnt have a girls only forum. That automatically makes this forum a 100 times better for any girls who own a GC, in my opinion.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Can somebody break it down for me? I cant figure out why people will support a site that has bad vendors, members, content, and spam/malware?



People dont go to websites that are dangerous or have viruses, so why put your car or selves at risk by supporting a website that isnt any good for the community? I'm not a Genesis owner so I'm just trying to understand why anyone would use Gen Coupe?



I know if I owned a GC, I would do alot of research on Google first before joining any forums or buying from a certain company. If there really is that many people who refuse to go to Gen Coupe and there really are that many bad interactions with the vendors, then Google will pick it up and it will all talk for itself. Am I wrong in thinking that? Then if people see all the bad stuff about the forum and vendors, its their own fault for joining or buying, right?
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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Threads like this cant be made on GenCoupe. The nazi's will censor anything you have to say quicker than you know. My life is just perfect since I'm not on that god forsaken site any more. I get everything I need right here at HA and it will remain that way until the day I no longer own a Hyundai. And even when the day comes, I'll still continue to post on this forum because the people here are just that awesome.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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In the name of being concise I'm gonna point out some things.



Originally Posted by demonicgenesis
People like CrookedH who refuse to see the big picture of why Gencoupe sucks so bad is one of the MANY reasons why I left that site. One thing I have seen with this site that makes it superior is that its n00b friendly. No matter how many times a certain question is asked, people here actually take the time to either answer the question or link the answer from another thread. Try asking a question thats been asked a bunch on gencoupe and see what happens.



Heres the other thing. They seem to allow any vendor in over there as long as they pay the membership fee. Doesnt matter if they are crooks, sell bad products, have horrible customer service, negative online reviews, and so on. Another issue...they talk about how the vendors like IS and SFR have alot of good feedback. That may be so, but to allow vendors on their site with alot (and there is plenty) of bad reviews, without taking the sides of the members shows that they really do not care about helping the community.



If a business gets alot of complaints and bad reviews on the better business bureau, eventually their business license will get pulled and an investigation is done by police or an attorney general. Doesnt matter if they helped people in a good way. With enough bad reviews, any business will suffer and be forced to close down so that more people are not scammed. Gencoupe doesnt follow that business practice and only cares about where their next monthly membership fee is coming from.



For these reasons, I throw up my middle finger to Gencoupe and hope they die a rotten death!


Thanks to the Majik Man for calling out the attacks. But, what do you mean 'people like CrookedH?' People like CrookedH are part of the reason for the Gencoupe knowledge base. I can't quote you his accomplishments, but he's no bandwagon tool. And actually, if you'd been at Gencoupe over the last few days it's gotten better. I'm actively working on it, and people I interact with there have caught on to what I'm doing, and their tone is changing as well.



And hey...buyer beware. When you go to Walmart there isn't a forum moderator there to kick out a crappy product. What is wrong with people now-a-days? Most people act like they need their hand held for EVERYTHING!



Originally Posted by Super G-Coupe
I think CrookedH just gets off on being a gencoupe groupie. Maybe he secretly wishes he could be one of the nazi staff over there and thats why he has blinders on and cant see the negative things that makes gencoupe a very bad site to be apart of.



Gencoupe is falling fast and people are realizing it extremely quick. Hundreds of people on facebook, twitter, and on Korean sites are all talking and saying the same exact thing. You will see soon enough that good hearted people will be here and the people who are RUINING the genesis community will all stay on their site. Deny it all you want, its a fact so either accept it or continue to be an assclown and be apart of gencoupe.


Yeah, ok. You spend your time working on your car and helping others out as he did on that site. Then we'll call you a groupie and see how you feel about it. It's not a fact...it's infinitive. Facts are solid (and can be wrong), what you are saying is false and, in fact, not solidified. Hey in the 50s (or so) it was a fact that eating sugar was a good way to lose weight. Lol... There are plenty of good hearted people at Gencoupe, some a lil jaded, but most people are good-hearted. There are a few who jump on the Flame Train, just like I do occasionally, and I'm sure you do too. Don't try to get 'High, and Mighty' because you THINK you've joined a 'superior' site. Deflate your head.





Originally Posted by korean_ferrari
Agreeing to everything that everyone has said about GenCoupe, the staff, the scam artist vendors, and Auto Guide. You guys should remember that there are going to be people who say GenCoupe is great and the best and all kinds of BS. They dont want to face the fact that they have competition and there are better forums out there that members are jumping ship to. They're losing people left and right like its going out of style real quick. And you know what? All those people who are leaving, are spreading the word every place they go about GenCoupe and saying DO NOT GO THERE or order anything from their vendors. This site on the other hand, everywhere I turn I see people giving this site a crazy amount of good reviews. Thats not speculation. Its the truth!


This guy, I kind of like. There are going to be people who's pride gets in the way. But not everyone is like that. This site is likely to be a good competitor to Gencoupe. But honestly, I like both sites. Save for the fact that people on this site feel the need to gather together and feel superior while they speak condescendingly upon another site.



Does that make you all feel good? What sucks in you lives so bad that you need to all come together to turn your nose up at something? Just go be happy, jeez.
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by decastpb
Can somebody break it down for me? I cant figure out why people will support a site that has bad vendors, members, content, and spam/malware?



People dont go to websites that are dangerous or have viruses, so why put your car or selves at risk by supporting a website that isnt any good for the community? I'm not a Genesis owner so I'm just trying to understand why anyone would use Gen Coupe?



I know if I owned a GC, I would do alot of research on Google first before joining any forums or buying from a certain company. If there really is that many people who refuse to go to Gen Coupe and there really are that many bad interactions with the vendors, then Google will pick it up and it will all talk for itself. Am I wrong in thinking that? Then if people see all the bad stuff about the forum and vendors, its their own fault for joining or buying, right?


What? The site doesn't have viruses/spyware/malware...? That generated at Club3G from an advertisement. It was advertisement related...numerous Autoguide forums were affected. Gencoupe is a good place. It's not as bad as people here make it sound. The one here are the one's who've been told to search, or have thin skin. I've had NO problems at Gencoupe. But, then again, I search before I ask, and I give n00bs links for them to search. And others are starting to do the same.





Originally Posted by Doylie
Threads like this cant be made on GenCoupe. The nazi's will censor anything you have to say quicker than you know. My life is just perfect since I'm not on that god forsaken site any more. I get everything I need right here at HA and it will remain that way until the day I no longer own a Hyundai. And even when the day comes, I'll still continue to post on this forum because the people here are just that awesome.


This is a flat out lie. Exhibit A Gencoupe is getting trashed. Exhibit B Regarding ARKExhibit C Gencoupe....



As you see, they aren't censor nazis. As long as you are mature about it, you can say whatever it is you want. Its called civility. I feel like people think they have to become uncivilized and hurtful when they need to express something... I don't understand it.



Yeah, Gencoupe has misinformation on a technical front. But, HA is just as misinformed on other fronts. Anyone with critical thinking skills would understand both sides of the story. But most people here just seem to be extremist in their views. Muslims are mostly pretty cool people. Just like everyone else, when they're normal. But did you know Muslim extremists blew up the WTC? Christian extremists once went on a slaughtering rampage? Yeah, think about those things...let it sink in.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Theres a split in the community for sure. Alot of people will stay on Gen Coupe, alot will leave and come here, and alot will go back and forth between the 2 forums. This forum will be the main competition that Gen Coupe has solely for the fact that members are much nicer and helpful here, and this forum wont allow vendors to get away with any sketchy bullshit. You can say Gen Coupe is getting better all you want but the fact remains that if they charge vendors to advertise there, then they will 99% of the time always back up the vendors versus the members because thats their revenue model and they dont want to take a chance in losing any money. Maybe not now since things are cooling down, but it will get that way again and things will revert back to the old way, making even more members leave for here. There are thousands and thousands of members in all of the facebook groups, and the more people talk about their dislike of Gen Coupe in those groups, the more people will leave and come here. No denying it.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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I've seen this kind of thing happen before. Not exactly, but very similar. Things could turn out different because of the Facebook groups though. What I'm referring to is the divide of Club3G.com.



Club3G is what some people would call worse. I doubt half of this forum would like it there. N00bs from Gencoupe that are here would be banned purely for comedy. Its hardly n00b-friendly, ask one wrong question without searching, and you'll be flamed to high heaven. I was a n00b, and that was my first online community. I kept quiet and searched, and LEARNED. How can you expect a n00bs knowledge to grow if all you ever do is feed them the answers? In my 3+ years there I haven't been flamed once, I've been corrected, but not flamed. Thats because I took the time to research and contribute to the community. Club3G has now been running for over 12 years.



But, I digress. Sometime in the early 2000s there was an upset, much like this one. Eclipseforums.org was born. All, the butthurt, sensitive n00bs who need to be spoon fed information migrated over there. They were knowledgeable and n00b friendly, just like here. Long story short, eclipseforums is a ghost town now. While C3G lives on. Its past its Golden Days, but she's still beautiful to look at. There's nothing you cant learn about the 3G Eclipse there. Meanwhile at eclipseforums some snot-nosed kid is asking a dead forum which intake he should buy: AEM or Injen. If its still running, that is.



This is what research has taught me. No, this site won't be a ghost town (its close) because of all the other platforms. But, if you read my story correctly, you'll understand that I'm just trying to convey my point using the past as a vehicle. You can dismiss it as being the past, but any rational person knows that history repeats itself, or rather, people repeat history.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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The Facebook groups have exploded because of the frustration with GenCoupe. Forums are a gathering place for like minds and interests, and Facebook provides another platform. There are many who get information, parts, etc. from FB and don't even venture on the forums because of the drama.



You have to remember, we've been around for over a decade as well and we're not a model specific forum that will die out when nobody drives a Tiburon anymore. We've weathered the storms and run successful forums for quite some time. I do appreciate your concern though.
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