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Sharky 07-05-2013 11:50 AM

Are cars too high tech for our own good?
 
A recent Yahoo article talks about six features that are apparently going extinct in modern cars:


  • Manual Transmission
  • Keys
  • Crank windows
  • Antennas
  • Handbrakes
  • Bias tires



Go down to the comments section and you see several people complain and talk about how they want things to stay the way they have always been. While some points made were valid (how to escape a sinking car when the windows are closed and the car won't restart) others seemed to borderline on people simply being old fashioned.



What do you think?

Tibbi 07-05-2013 12:14 PM

http://www.crazyengineer.net/wp-cont...04/redneck.jpg

If you let all of your technological advancements be decided by ^this guy^ you get what you deserve.







Manuals will always be an option

Automatic windows break just as well as crank. (Most of the time crank windows cant be opened anyway due to excessive pressure on the system in the event of a hydrated landing.)

Antennas?! Who honestly gives a sh*t?

Keys? ''

Bias tires...... Welcome to 1946.

i8acobra 07-05-2013 03:48 PM

I don't mind technology being available. I just don't like when it's standard and I have to pay for it.

Antonyr123 07-05-2013 04:30 PM

they will never ban a Manual Transmission while im still alive. hell i'v never even driven in one.



I love tech... Its not hard or confusing once you messed around with it for awhile.



I hate non cable handbrakes and automatic ones. There sh*t!

Stocker 07-06-2013 01:27 PM

The confusing part isn't the problem. It's the total loss of control on a high speed turn when your electronics take a sh*t and you die during a multiple barrel-roll situation. That's the problem

wheel_of_steel 07-06-2013 11:32 PM

We are in an age where these electronic actuators are more reliable than their manual counterparts. Not only that, but they work better for 95% of people who don't give a sh*t.



I can't help but feel a bit nostalgic for purely mechanical stuff, but most of the carburreted, mechanical-only cars from the end of that era (say late 70s) were horrendously complex and unreliable. Try rebuilding an emissions friendly feedback carb yourself...

Red Raspberry 07-07-2013 09:10 AM

I'd rather have keys. Why pay $150 for a transponder then have to get it programmed by the dealer?



The antenna in the Genesis Coupe is the sorriest thing I've ever seen. It barely picks up static on the AM band from lightening is how week it is.



Hyundai may put themselves out of business if they keep including the manual transmissions like the one in the Genesis Coupe.

Stocker 07-07-2013 10:02 PM

You can NOT seriously tell me that a steering shaft with u-joints and a gearbox is less reliable than steer-by-wire. And make that key/transponder, a $150 needless expense with an added security risk that allows a thief to drive off with your car without breaking in, using a clever handheld radio.



If the engine computer in an RD fails altogether the only failure mode is graceful: the engine stops, but steering and brakes remain active. If the everything computer in an everything-by-wire car fails, you're f*cked.

i8acobra 07-07-2013 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Stocker (Post 686383)
If the everything computer in an everything-by-wire car fails, you're f*cked.



No. All "by wire" cars have redundant mechanical systems for steering and brakes. Yes, it's possible for a DBW car to fail and not go, but you'll never have a failure that results in a loss of steering or braking control.

Tibbi 07-08-2013 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Red Raspberry (Post 686345)
Hyundai may put themselves out of business if they keep including the automatic transmissions like the one in the RD Tiburons.



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