Hi TibuPartners...
I have to choose between this 2 Racing Clutch... If you have to choose between this clutches, wich one you will use??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...sspagename=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...sspagename=WDVW


Both of them will cost me $85.00 for shipping to my country...


Or you have another option at the same price???

Thanks....

 

I would get the XTD one. I've heard of that brand. I have never heard of the other. You may also want to contact Rick @ Real-Engineering and see if they can sell the VHR clutch and pressure plate without the flywheel.

 

They look kind of the same 2 me.

What kind of driver are you ? I think a stage 3 clutch is more for racing. I'll be a b**tch for driving 'normal'.

 

Isn't it 'a must' to upgrade your flywheel as well. Since you have all the stuff out anyway laugh.gif

 

Yeah... chances are if your clutch is old/dead, then your flywheel is about to go as well. You would at least need to get the flywheel resurfaced, and may need an entirely new setup. Its better to get it replaced when the transmission is out anyway, saves on labor if your paying someone to do it and will save you half a day of work if your doing it yourself.

Stage III is overkill unless you have some kind of F/I.

 

Ok... I'm really a medium to high RPM dailly driver.... but I will turbo next month.... have almost everything for a good 12-14 PSI.... Also I'm thinking in enter a Drag Contest here in my country.....

I know about the Flywheel... was thinking on change it too... I was looking for the Kspec Kit.. but really don't have the money right now.... beside I know a guy with a BMW M3 that put a lightened flywheel... he told me that he REVS much faster... but it goes down faster too... So I will put this in a really "Next Upgrade" option.... or maybe for the difference of money I can get the AIRRAM... 30HP more not sounds bad...

My stepfather will help me to put the new clutch.... it will cost me a couple of beers and some assistance on buying on the Internet.... he's like me... an Ebay addict LoL

I saw that they are selling Flywheels on EBay at a fair price.... or maybe I can get it on a future GB...

I appreciate totally honestly about feelings of new clutches....


BTW... sorry for my English.... sometimes I forgot some words and spellings...

 

The lightened flywheel does wonders for low-end power... if your going to be dragging with a higher spool turbo, it will help your car tremendously off the line. In most comparisons, a flywheel is comparable to removing 300 pounds off your car in first gear. Sounds good huh? tongue.gif

But if you must, at least get the flywheel resurfaced. Should only be around $50.

 

Ok... to sum this up. I would go with the XD clutch as that is a known variable. The "Gripforce" clutch seems like a cheap knock off. Another plus is that the seller of the XD Clutch invites you to check out his business via a link on eBay. Definatly a good seller.

This "Stage 3" clutch holds 200% to 400% over stock. Well, 200% over stock is not a lot, our clutches do not hold that much power without slipping.. even when new. While I am certain this clutch might be a little "grippy" and will at first be hard to drive, once it is broken in some and you have adapted your style to it, it will be just as smooth as stock.. or at least close to it.

Personally, I would get a lightened flywheel now. Not only do you already have to pull the old one to replace your clutch properly (you need to get it refinished) but the lighter weight will make the engine more responsive. Again, this will cause you to alter your driving habits. An engine that revs quickly has less mass to keep it going when you let out the clutch from a standstill.

And yes, an engine that revs up quickly will also allow it's revs to fall quickly. This is a good thing. This is also how cars used to be before the invention of dual mass flywheels, low compression, and heavy harmonic balancers. A responsive engine is a powerful one. It is also a joy to drive once you are used to using it properly. Your mom and grandmother will hate it, an enthusiast will love it.

So, all told you are looking at Flywheel and clutch. This will translate into an engine that IS prone to stall, but also VERY responsive to every move your right foot makes the throttle. Also, the heavier duty "Stage 3" clutch WILL be harder to use, probably close to twice the leg muscles will be needed to depress it. I can also guarentee that you are going to stall the car MANY times with this combination until you get used to it.

 

Thanks for all the replies..... all of you help me in this little "mind" problem...

I will choose the XTD..... let me check again for the Flywheel... You are right Mad-Machine... I will try to buy it on June.... could be the Fidanza flywheel... $335 doesn't sound bad

The Turbo is a Garret T3 .48 .60 with 42Lbs injectors...

 

As nice as the price seems... i would get neither.

When it comes to clutches.. you DO NOT want to go cheap. I would suggest patience and you buy a PROVEN clutch. IVe tried, and friends have tried unproven clutches with very few happy results.

There is nothing worse than driving your car with confidence only to one day have it start slipping on you.

Considering you are also in another country.. if the clutch fails(Which it may) you might be pretty screwed when it comes to warranty.

Warranty issues and clutches are a pain ESPECIALLY when dealing with small companies...

I Would suggest you save your money and get a better brand.

You could also email the seller and ask who makes their clutches... incase they dont make their own.


As far as the flywheel... if you have the time and money... get it. Your turbo will spool up quicker and the drive train loss will decrease.

I had a lightweight flywheel for a while and loved it.

Anyways.. my 2 cents...