Next in line for Widebands?
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Next in line for Widebands?
Got an email back from M&W Ignitions with their UEGO Sensor pricing:
Anyone have any ideas for putting together their own true sensor? They said that they get their sensor from NTK or there is a less quality Bosch model available. The only thing I wouldn't know how to do is make it show up on my laptop with the nice graphs.
[ January 08, 2003, 04:55 AM: Message edited by: JonGTR ]
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Basic race car kit #UEG009 $2050 AUD.
This is for use with an ECU, Dyno data acquisition, race data logging
system or any other device which has a suitable 0-5V input.
Kit consists of:
1 X controller with 0-5V out only
1 X dyno/race car wiring harness
1 X Uego sensor
Standard Kit #UEG002 $2589.00 AUD
1 X #2 controller with serial only
1 X wiring harness (with lighter plug)
1 X Uego sensor
1 X carry case
1 X Stainless steel exhaust probe
1 X Software Dos,Win95/98/NT. (Pocket PC by request)
Standard Kit #UEG007 $2838.00 AUD
1 X #1 controller with 0-5V and RS232 out
1 X wiring harness (with lighter plug)
1 X Uego sensor
1 X carry case
1 X Stainless steel exhaust probe
1 X Software Dos,Win95/98/NT. (Pocket PC by request)
Professional Kit #UEG001 $3784.00 AUD
1 X M&W LCD touch screen display
1 X #1 controller with 0-5V and RS232 out
1 X wiring harness (with lighter plug)
1 X Uego sensor
1 X high quality Pelican carry case
1 X high quality windscreen mount suction cup
1 X Stainless steel exhaust probe
1 X Software Dos,Win95/98/NT. (Pocket PC by request)
Replacement sensor $650.00 AUD with cal chip.
$1500 was just a little more than I was expecting. eek! This is for use with an ECU, Dyno data acquisition, race data logging
system or any other device which has a suitable 0-5V input.
Kit consists of:
1 X controller with 0-5V out only
1 X dyno/race car wiring harness
1 X Uego sensor
Standard Kit #UEG002 $2589.00 AUD
1 X #2 controller with serial only
1 X wiring harness (with lighter plug)
1 X Uego sensor
1 X carry case
1 X Stainless steel exhaust probe
1 X Software Dos,Win95/98/NT. (Pocket PC by request)
Standard Kit #UEG007 $2838.00 AUD
1 X #1 controller with 0-5V and RS232 out
1 X wiring harness (with lighter plug)
1 X Uego sensor
1 X carry case
1 X Stainless steel exhaust probe
1 X Software Dos,Win95/98/NT. (Pocket PC by request)
Professional Kit #UEG001 $3784.00 AUD
1 X M&W LCD touch screen display
1 X #1 controller with 0-5V and RS232 out
1 X wiring harness (with lighter plug)
1 X Uego sensor
1 X high quality Pelican carry case
1 X high quality windscreen mount suction cup
1 X Stainless steel exhaust probe
1 X Software Dos,Win95/98/NT. (Pocket PC by request)
Replacement sensor $650.00 AUD with cal chip.
Anyone have any ideas for putting together their own true sensor? They said that they get their sensor from NTK or there is a less quality Bosch model available. The only thing I wouldn't know how to do is make it show up on my laptop with the nice graphs.
[ January 08, 2003, 04:55 AM: Message edited by: JonGTR ]
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Does this sound lke a trustworthy system?
http://www.lambdaboy.com/main.html#PRODUCT
It seems like a true wideband sensor to me (5 wire NTK) and has a logging program for laptops.
http://www.lambdaboy.com/main.html#PRODUCT
It seems like a true wideband sensor to me (5 wire NTK) and has a logging program for laptops.
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I gotta say, I find no fault with it. But I would want to know the life expectancy of that o2 sensor. You can't leave it in 24/7 as wide band 02 sensors go bad very fast.
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Well, the sensor is not made by them. It is one made by NGK/NTK. All the sites that use true 5-wire widebands are using this one first and the Bosch second. They say that they last 500 hours on regular pump gas (50 on deisel). But they only cost $50. Basically, you could get 15,000 miles out of one at an average of 30 mph.
Again, IF it's permanently installed.
This would be MUCH better at $499 instead of $1500.
[ January 08, 2003, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: JonGTR ]
Again, IF it's permanently installed.
This would be MUCH better at $499 instead of $1500.
[ January 08, 2003, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: JonGTR ]
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Ok, did a little more digging. The sensor can be welded in the exhaust with a standard bung, but not permanently. It seems that the sensor needs to be recalibrated before every few uses by holding it in the outside/clean air. This gives it a "zero" mark.
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You would NOT want to install the W02 sensor full time. You would put a bolt or something in the welded in bung to block it off, then remove the bolt and isntall the wo2 sensor when you want to tune.
W02 sensor should ONLY be used for tuning, not for daily driving. At $200 a sensor, that's sorta steep when they go bad/burn out.
W02 sensor should ONLY be used for tuning, not for daily driving. At $200 a sensor, that's sorta steep when they go bad/burn out.
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After searching clubsi, then getting directed to a Supra board, they all seem to love this one, even though its a little more in price:
http://www.fjoinc.com/automotive/
http://www.fjoinc.com/automotive/