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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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hey i recently found that i had an oil leak at my oil pan gasket. so rather then just put the stocker back on i'm going to upgrade to a beta2 oil pan that is aluminum.

what exactally are the pros/cons of this swap?
i've heard the beta2 pan holds more oil/sturdier but is that it?
why would i want my engine to hold any more oil if i'm not turboed?

is this swap a straight bolt on or are there mods that need to be done?

i've heard of people doing this swap but i'm just a little confused on why. i dont want to just stick it on the car just to say that i've got a beta2 pan. but being aluminum ilo our cast one has to be an adavantage of some sort.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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it doesnt actually hold any more oil, but the improved cooling is the only real gain. thats really about it. and why wouldnt you want a nice finned aluminum compared to the nasty stamped steel piece?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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you dont have an oil pan gasket for one nana.gif its just rtv.

holds same amount of oil..

the beta II may be more sturdy but its also weaker if you bottom out.

straight bolt on, i will be doing the swap shortly.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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wow then how did i just buy an oil pan gasket at work?? should i return it and just get some RTV instead?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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yup get some RTV
either permatex gray one or permatex "right stuff" those are the best easy to find RTV on the market

aluminium does help cooling oil a bit,it's doesn't contain more oil,you will need the beta2 oil pan bolt (4 of them are extra long) and be sure to remove the little dowel pins form the oil pan if they are there
(beta1 block don't have the holes for them)
you are alrady using thebeta2 trans,so you won't have to grind some clearance for the 2 rear bolts
you might have to dimple the crossmemeber to make clearance for the rear oil pan bolt (heat and hammer)
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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thanx denisst i appriciate the tips. do you know what sort of bolt i will need? i'm sure its probably a m12 bolt but i have no clue on the curl or the length specs.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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also the heat sinks on the pan disapate heat. also it made out of alu so that is another +. and it looks better to
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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how the hell did you just buy an oil pan gasket.. if you did.. then your system at work blows.. lol none of the betas have oil pan gaskets just the shitty ole rtv.. i hate using that stuff. never seems to get the right seal like a gasket..

why couldn't hyunda have just used gaskets, so much cleaner and easier.. stupid hyundai.
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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actually you have less leaks wit ha good rtv job

for the oil pan bolt i don't have the lenghts on hand,but you will need 2 extra long m6 x 1.0 bolts
2 a little bit shorter m6 x 1.0 bolts and about 16 short m6 x 1.0 bolts
(m6 bolts have the 10mm heads)
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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that pan u use only rtv, the is no gasket for that pan..
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