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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 06:01 AM
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...l-9646865.html



Nasa approves 'impossible' space engine design that apparently violates the laws of physics and could revolutionise space travel



In a quiet announcement that has sent shockwaves through the scientific world, Nasa has cautiously given its seal of approval to a new type of “impossible” engine that could revolutionize space travel.



In a paper published by the agency’s experimental Eagleworks Laboratories, Nasa engineers confirmed that they had produced tiny amounts of thrust from an engine without propellant – an apparent violation of the conservation of momentum; the law of physics that states that every action must have an equal and opposite reaction.



Traditional spacecraft carry vast amounts of fuel with them into orbit in order to move about, using the thrust created by this fuel to move in zero gravity like a swimmer in a pool pushing off against a wall. This method works fine but it's costly - both in terms of obtaining the fuel and then launching all that extra weight into space.





The Atlantis Space Shuttle launches - the brown tank is all for fuel.



Nasa’s engineers have tested an engine known as a ‘Cannae Drive’, a machine that instead uses electricity to generate microwaves, bouncing them around inside a specially designed container that theoretically creates a difference in radiation pressure and so results in directional thrust.



In an ordinary engine the rocket moves forward as fuel is flung backwards - the momentum of the rocket (a measure of both its mass and velocity combined) is 'conserved' because it is moved from the rocket to the fuel. However, with the Cannae Drive there is no fuel - the microwaves aren't expelled from the engine (as ions are with weak-but-reliable Ion Thrusters) they're just kind of moved about within the container.



All this might be theoretical no more however. Nasa’s scientists tested a version of the drive designed by US scientist Guido Fetta and found that the propellant-less engine was able to produce between 30 and 50 micronewtons of thrust – a tiny amount (0.00003 to 0.00005 per cent of the force of an iPhone pressing down when held in the hand) but still a great deal more than nothing.



(Fetta has said that the name refers to the Battle of Cannae when a small Carthaginian force led by Hannibal improbably defeated a much larger Roman army - although many have suggested that he is also referring to the engineer Scotty in the Star Trek series and his recurring and plaintive protest that he 'cannae change the laws of physics'.)



The results, first reported by Wired UK, are less than a thousandth of the thrust produced in tests by Chinese engineers of a similar invention known as the EmDrive - another fuel-less thruster designed by British scientist Roger Shawyer. Bother Shawyer and Fetta have spent year evangelizing their designs but this has invited as much suspicion as it has support, with many looking sceptically on claims that apparently violate the laws of physics.



It's not surprising then that Nasa is presenting its positive test results as objectively as possible, with its engineers making no attempt to explain the mechanisms at play and instead only reporting on the integrity of the test procedures and their results. They did, however, allow themselves a brief moment of speculation:



"Test results indicate that the RF resonant cavity thruster design, which is unique as an electric propulsion device, is producing a force that is not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon and therefore is potentially demonstrating an interaction with the quantum vacuum virtual plasma.” (emphasis added).





A model of the EmDrive - the shape of the engine (including numerous interior wells and channels) are intended to create directional thrust from microwaves.



This 'quantum vaccum' is what the microwave drives might theoretically be 'pushing off' against - it's essentially a dimension of the Universe that represents the lowest energetic state physically possible; a ‘base layer’ of reality that physicists sometimes suggest might be the origin of the equally mysterious ‘dark energy'.



If all this sounds like the realm of science fiction, well it is - so far. Despite multiple experiments now confirming that these ‘impossible’ drives work, there’s still plenty of room for mistakes (see for example the 2011 CERN experiments that mistakenly observed faster-than-light neutrinos) and recreating the physical vacuum necessary for the tests could go wrong in countless ways.



Still, if further experiments continue to confirm the reality of these microwave thrusters then it could trigger a new era of space travel. Nasa's involvement is no guarantee of success, but it does suggest that scientists are taking the possibility of 'impossible' engines seriously. Perhaps we should too.


Pretty bad ass! I hope they perfect the technology within the next few years.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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We would've been way ahead of our time if our government and scientific community didn't have such a tight leash on Nikola Tesla. The man was the greatest genius and inventor of our time. Let alone we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for Tesla.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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This so-called no-fuel drive is nothing at all until it produces a force that can be measured in something besides units of iphone pushing on a hand. Better still if the result is not outside the margin of error from a gnat landing on the floor of the room next door. Sorry, this is a non-story.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 12:49 AM
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I have been following this pretty close since the news broke and it's starting to look like the results were based on a false reading. Also it's worth noting that this was never intended to be 100% validation of the theory. In fact the whole thing has been blown totally out of proportion by social media and internet OMGSCIENCE blogs. The test is still in some of it's earliest stages and isn't anything more than theoretical at this point.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 10:13 AM
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It is most likely that there is an unintentional error in the test method and this will eventually be proven to not work. Hopefully I'm wrong. If this is true it will revolutionize space travel. This could get a ship to neighboring star systems within our lifetimes.



A constant small thrust can move a large ship up to incredible speeds in the vacuum of space. This was never intended as a launch engine. If the results prove true and an RTG is adequate to provide the required electricity even if that's all the thrust that can be produced it could still be a viable option for long trips. Given time even a very slow constant acceleration will get you up to a high speed. You would have to reverse at the halfway point though because it will take half the trip distance to slow back down with a constant low thrust drive engine.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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I'd rather see more done to expand research into solar sails and electric sails.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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Classical mechanics have already been violated for however many decades it's been since quantum physics became an acknowledged field. I think it'd be folly to assume that some law that humans have thought up is inviolable and untouchable...



Theoretical research is exciting to contemplate. I assume that the realistic effect that this will have on the general population will be a few million hits on the wikipedia page for 'physics', followed by a few million anguished groans.
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