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#1 User is offline   blue2000 

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:11 AM

lets say there was a crashed genesis coupe near me and the engine was perfectly fine. will the turbo 4 cylinder drop into a tibs engine bay easily? will the transmission match up to it or would i have to use the genesis tranny with rear axle and driveshaft? what about the the ecu? will it work with the rest of the tibs controls or will everything be completely off?
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:36 AM

If it was a project that didnt consist of taking your daily driver off the road for awhile, then I would say go for it. But for the amount of money and time it'll take to do this swap...you're better off just getting a standard turbo kit, and call it a day.
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 11:42 AM

I have given some thought to this (Scary huh) and for sure you want the ECM and wiring harness to go with the motor. There would be lots of rewiring involved but if you can read a wiring schematic you can pull it off. As for the trans, well i have no idea, I would be suprised if the beta trans fit the Genesis motor. So I would grab along with what I mentioned, the rear axle, related suspension components and drive line along with the trans. Thats a monster project but it would be sweet. If you are looking for just the turbo I would boost the beta and leave that beast project alone.
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 11:51 AM

it's a theta right? which is also in the sonata, forte, optima, those are all fwd so you might be able to use their trannys

sounds like a pricey project and i don't know where you'll find a wrecked gen coup yet
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (ereeves116 @ Nov 6 2009, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's a theta right? which is also in the sonata, forte, optima, those are all fwd so you might be able to use their trannys

sounds like a pricey project and i don't know where you'll find a wrecked gen coup yet

Well then , grab the tranny from those and your good, forget the whole rear section

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE (ereeves116 @ Nov 6 2009, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sounds like a pricey project and i don't know where you'll find a wrecked gen coup yet









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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:57 PM

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:28 PM

Yeah, use the Forte's 6 speed fwd trans. Either run a standalone or full harness, all sensors (including body and wheel), ECU, and BCM from the Gen Coupe (not as easy as it use to be with newer CAN systems). Poweraxle might be able to remove the need for the BCM and random sensors around the car trough his reprogramming software, but I don't know that for sure.

I personally would take the Forte or Sonata's 2.4l engine over the Gen Coupe's 2.0l engine unless you're looking for 300+hp. With 175hp stock the N/A 2.4l is no slouch. Add a few pounds of boost to that and you'll be looking at 250hp without even trying.

At the end of the day, It's not really a worthwhile swap because of how much you can get out of a Beta. The engines essentially weigh the same even though the Theta has an aluminum block. With the exhaust on the firewall side room for a turbo will be tight also.
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Visionz @ Nov 6 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


i bet the engine is good on that one lol
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:57 PM

the block for the genisis coupe will not likely be drilled to accept transverse mounting (speculating i dont actually know this). you could probably swap internals (rods, pistons, head or cams,..) with a fwd theta to make it more turbo friendly (maybe even a genisis computer for the correct fuel and timing). this would basically give you a fwd version of the genisis motor.

-just because it seems impossible doesn't mean it is. im sure the first person to put a beta in an accent was told they were crazy and it would be easier to turbo the 1.5 with scoupe parts but now you can do it in a day.

-but like Visionz said it cant be your daily driver because there will be alot of trial and error with getting this to work.

-fyi- the seriesII v6 GM used in the 90s had a fwd and a rwd version and the blocks were not interchangeable-this came in camaros, firebirds, grandprix, monte carlos, etc..
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 09:59 PM

the 4cyl turbo gen coupe engine is NOT i repeat NOT a theta engine. its a 4B11T. same engine used in the dodge caliber and mitsubishi evo x. plus, its RWD. theres no way in hell you are fitting it in the tib unless you completely re-do the front subframe, the firewall (have to cut it to fit the trans) the center of the car (to fit the driveshaft which sits higher) the ENTIRE rear subframe to fit a diff, the rear suspension (to fit RWD knuckles and axles) among many, many things. do a google search for the honda prelude RWD swap to see how intensive it is.


do it if you're your own welder, engineer, have 50 hours a week of free time, and have $10,000 spare cash.
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Posted 06 November 2009 - 10:14 PM

It's well documented that it is NOT the 4B11T and that it is a Theta. Please don't spread misinformation.

Most automakers using common blocks can be mounted transversely or longitudinally, but it is currently not known whether it is true for the Theta.

There is a conversion kit for sale in Korea for $8k, but I don't know what trans is used.
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 01:05 AM

well if you do this...do it right. dont waste your time aking it FWD...thats stupide get the entire car and have every peice of mechanical parts swapped...it can work, will work you just need the money to do it.
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